From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yesterdays observation of lower left fringe Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:10:40 +0200 Message-ID: <48D93120.4030308@gmail.com> References: <48D45225.8010900@gmail.com> <48D92F6D.1040904@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222193464 22696 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2008 18:11:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 23 20:12:01 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KiCMf-0001Lj-5z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:11:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52201 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiCLd-0005aJ-1O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:10:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KiCLY-0005aC-Ag for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:10:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KiCLX-0005Zz-Nu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:10:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38282 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KiCLX-0005Zw-Iz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:10:47 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:41039) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KiCLX-0007b8-92 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:10:47 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-87.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.87]:64255 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KiCLV-0004kZ-6g; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:10:45 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <48D92F6D.1040904@harpegolden.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080923-0, 2008-09-23), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.87 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KiCLV-0004kZ-6g. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KiCLV-0004kZ-6g 384bb7684dc28f9ba684723a85ad072e X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104065 Archived-At: David De La Harpe Golden wrote: > Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: >> I am not quite comfortable with an observation I made yesterday. I have >> set indicate-buffer-boundaries to top left and bottom left. The bottom >> left used a right upper corner symbol yesterday. >> >> Today it uses a lower left. I like that more. >> >> But it is frustrating that I am using the same Emacs today as yesterday. >> (But I have rebooted my w32 pc.) >> >> > > Um. Doesn't the bottom left only use the upper right corner symbol when > the last char in the file isn't a newline? At least, that's the > behaviour on my fortnight-old emacs build (in the middle of apartment > move, kinda busy...). > > i.e. it is (or at least was) actively indicating something. Eh, you are right. But ... signs that do not talk should be crystal clear ... Isn't there someone who have a better suggestion for that "there-is-no-ending-new-line" symbol? Personally I would be less surprised by a lower right and a lower left corner, but still confusing. Here is another idea: If the last line has an ending newline char then place the fringe symbol one line down (and let it be the same symbol). What about that?