From: Thomas Lord <lord@emf.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, pmr@pajato.com, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
lennart.borgman@gmail.com, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
Antoine Levitt <smeuuh@gmail.com>,
raman@users.sourceforge.net, phil@shellarchive.co.uk
Subject: Re: An Emacs plug-in for a browser (Firefox?)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:46:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48C59D2D.1050201@emf.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvabeis7ly.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Emacs has the concept that two windows can look at the same buffer.
>>
> [....]
>
> But it doesn't matter that much in practice: people will just have to
> live with the limitation, but it doesn't make the idea unusable.
>
I didn't mean to claim otherwise.
It will be, as RMS put it, a kludge (and a pandora's box of hassles).
It won't succeed at seamlessly integrating browser windows into Emacs
window management from a user perspective (so it fails at the goal -- i.e.,
won't work).
In all seriousness, people interested in that vision of the future
that includes things like browsing but with Emacs-style windows
might want to work not on the problem of how to embed stuff
in Emacs but on the problems of how to have multiple views
of a single web page.
> You won't get some of the power you usually expect from Emacs, but then
> again, you never had this power in Firefox anyway, so it's not like you
> lost anything.
>
Certainly but RMS is right when he describes it as a kludge
and likely an endless source of problems (because when a thing
doesn't and can't ever work "quite right" there is a constant
pressure to "fix" it, no matter how many times it has been
"fixed" before).
-t
>
> Stefan
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-08 21:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-04 22:18 An Emacs plug-in for a browser (Firefox?) Paul Michael Reilly
2008-09-05 0:16 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-09-05 0:19 ` David House
2008-09-05 2:42 ` T. V. Raman
2008-09-05 4:53 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2008-09-05 6:44 ` joakim
2008-09-05 8:53 ` Phil Jackson
2008-09-05 9:21 ` joakim
2008-09-05 9:30 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-05 11:20 ` Antoine Levitt
2008-09-06 7:12 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-06 10:48 ` Antoine Levitt
2008-09-06 21:04 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-06 21:36 ` David Hansen
2008-09-06 21:49 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-06 22:25 ` David Hansen
2008-09-06 22:48 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-06 23:08 ` David Hansen
2008-09-06 22:41 ` Sean O'Rourke
2008-09-07 23:36 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-06 16:42 ` Chong Yidong
2008-09-06 16:58 ` joakim
2008-09-06 19:42 ` Chong Yidong
2008-09-06 20:20 ` David Hansen
2008-09-06 21:54 ` T. V. Raman
2008-09-06 20:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-07 17:39 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-07 17:49 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-07 18:29 ` Chong Yidong
2008-09-08 9:22 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-08 12:31 ` Chong Yidong
2008-09-08 17:07 ` Antoine Levitt
2008-09-08 19:05 ` Thomas Lord
2008-09-08 19:07 ` Antoine Levitt
2008-09-08 20:27 ` Thomas Lord
2008-09-08 20:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-08 21:33 ` joakim
2008-09-08 21:46 ` Thomas Lord [this message]
2008-09-09 8:11 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-08 22:13 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-07 19:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-08 9:22 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-05 13:33 ` T. V. Raman
2008-09-05 13:32 ` T. V. Raman
2008-09-05 20:40 ` Christian Faulhammer
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