From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: In CVS Emacs, calc-eval gives multiplication higher precidence than division Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:39:23 +0200 Message-ID: <48C58D7B.1060707@gmail.com> References: <878wu3j4k2.fsf@gmail.com> <86wshn3df0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <7D0B0AA3-AED7-456B-AAAB-D72CABD19CFB@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220906392 21451 80.91.229.12 (8 Sep 2008 20:39:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 20:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Randal L. Schwartz" To: Carsten Dominik Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 08 22:40:47 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KcnXS-00085Q-V0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:40:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58104 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KcnWS-00062r-ST for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:39:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KcnWO-00062Z-62 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:39:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KcnWN-00062K-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:39:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53512 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KcnWJ-00061N-Ft; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:39:35 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:51136) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KcnWJ-0006Hf-3s; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:39:35 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-87.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.87]:64981 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KcnWG-00067P-7d; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:39:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <7D0B0AA3-AED7-456B-AAAB-D72CABD19CFB@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080908-0, 2008-09-08), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.87 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KcnWG-00067P-7d. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KcnWG-00067P-7d 5ace2009b5ea8c2400cb7f31e65aa50a X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103703 gmane.emacs.bugs:20352 Archived-At: Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Lennart Borgman wrote: > >> On 9/8/08, Carsten Dominik > I would fight >> for the current calc implementation, it is an important >>> convenience when entering equations. I am relying on it every day. >> >> Exactly how are you relying on that the current behaviour is the default? > > > By typing algebraic equations into the minibuffer and saving tons of key > strokes by leaving off parenthesis. I often type equations like > > p = n k T / mu mp > > and it saves me 4 key strokes to not having to type the parenthesis > > p = (n k T) / (mu mp) Yes, sorry, I should not have asked like that. I get a little bit upset that many people here accept defaults that can make it harder for newbees just for a little bit convenience. (But I guess I am a bit unfair. Someone more in favour of the view opposite to mine in this question can surely put it more nicely.) Of course I can see that the behaviour you want saves you a lot of key strokes. My question is really about the default value. You can easily change that, of course. The question is really if you prefer the old default and in that case what arguments you want to present for that.