From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Michael Reilly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rmail-mbox branch Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:27:44 -0400 Message-ID: <48BF8DF0.6040909@pajato.com> References: <87zlprvod0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4868CF84.1040005@pajato.com> <48A90589.4020804@pajato.com> <48A91146.60200@pajato.com> <48A968A3.8050806@pajato.com> <48BA1DAE.2030005@pajato.com> <874p51xblf.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <84od39q9mv.fsf@boris.laptop> <84abesum0g.fsf@boris.laptop> <841w03v389.fsf@boris.laptop> <84wshvtgoz.fsf@boris.laptop> <87od363q1i.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8763pc4oy4.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220513294 6040 80.91.229.12 (4 Sep 2008 07:28:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 07:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , rms@gnu.org, Evil Boris To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 04 09:29:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kb9H2-0006S6-JO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:29:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33461 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kb9G3-0002Nh-88 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:27:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kb9Fw-0002Ln-2t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:27:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kb9Fu-0002K7-MY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:27:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43929 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kb9Fu-0002Jy-I8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:27:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:47917) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kb9Fs-0003St-8e; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:27:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.pajato.com ([68.191.253.210] helo=copa.pajato.com) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kb9Fr-0007Cy-Ay; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:27:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (copa.pajato.com [68.191.253.210]) by copa.pajato.com (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m847Rj9Q005487; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 03:27:45 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080723) In-Reply-To: <8763pc4oy4.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (copa.pajato.com [68.191.253.210]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:27:45 -0400 (EDT) X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103530 Archived-At: Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: > > > > MIME media-type text bodies may use Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit, > > > which would allow you to save the predecoded text body. But who > > > cares? Nobody sends multimegabyte text/plain messages; decoding per > > > display is not an efficiency problem. > > > > Indeed, decoding upon display is not a problem. The problem that's new > > for Pmail is that Rmail allows the user to edit a message, so Pmail will > > need to be able to re-encode a displayed message. > > Yup. > > Continuing to maintain Rmail, even with a more-commonly-used mailbox > format, is going to be an ongoing headache IMO. Tell me about it! My headache is already pounding. After using Rmail/VM/Eudora/Gnus/Evolution/Pine/Netscape Mail/Kmail/Thunderbird and probably a few other clients, I always come back to the conclusion that Rmail was the most satisfying for me (except for IMAP support, which is my long term goal and a whole different topic that will start to get addressed when Rmail/mbox has replaced Rmail/babyl). Your comments have been helpful. Keep 'em coming. It's aspirin for sure. -pmr