From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Michael Reilly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rmail-mbox branch Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:46:56 -0400 Message-ID: <48BEE9B0.7020106@pajato.com> References: <87zlprvod0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4868CF84.1040005@pajato.com> <48A90589.4020804@pajato.com> <48A91146.60200@pajato.com> <48A968A3.8050806@pajato.com> <48BA1DAE.2030005@pajato.com> <874p51xblf.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <48BC44F3.4030902@pajato.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220471251 2732 80.91.229.12 (3 Sep 2008 19:47:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 03 21:48:24 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KayL1-0008Dr-6O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:48:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55019 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KayK2-0002oX-9Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:47:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KayJx-0002nB-Ff for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:47:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KayJv-0002l1-G5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:47:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40051 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KayJv-0002kv-Bq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:47:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.pajato.com ([68.191.253.210]:47474 helo=copa.pajato.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KayJf-0007Te-On; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:46:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (copa.pajato.com [68.191.253.210]) by copa.pajato.com (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m83Jkv5A023592; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:46:57 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080723) In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (copa.pajato.com [68.191.253.210]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:46:57 -0400 (EDT) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103514 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: "Richard M. Stallman" >> CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, pmr@pajato.com, cyd@stupidchicken.com, >> emacs-devel@gnu.org, rgm@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:41:18 -0400 >> >> Rmail in Emacs 23 does work, and Pmail doesn't work well enough yet. >> I can say that with assurance because I just tried it for a couple >> of days. > > What were the problems? Can you please publish at least their > summary? You make a persuasive case for using the bug tracking system. I don't suppose someone could create a "category" for lack of a better term to keep bug reports on Pmail, or tell me how I should do it if I even can? In a nutshell, and off the of my head, the problems have been: pmail-output will not output to an Rmail/babyl file (not fixed); expunge would lose track of which message was the current message (fixed); message decoding works in Rmail but not in Pmail (this is the current big issue); reply did not correctly hide the X-BABYL... header (fixed); invisible headers become visible in unexpected ways, like when using regions operations on a message (not fixed) and various byte compiler issues (fixed). I'm sure that a few have been forgotten already but that should give you a feel for the issues. By all means give it a try. You should be able to do so and seamlessly switch back to Rmail when you find a deal breaker, just make sure you preserve your inboxes when using Pmail. -pmr