From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Michael Reilly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rmail-mbox branch Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:39:31 -0400 Message-ID: <48BC44F3.4030902@pajato.com> References: <87zlprvod0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4868CF84.1040005@pajato.com> <48A90589.4020804@pajato.com> <48A91146.60200@pajato.com> <48A968A3.8050806@pajato.com> <48BA1DAE.2030005@pajato.com> <874p51xblf.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220298004 30853 80.91.229.12 (1 Sep 2008 19:40:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , emacs-devel To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 01 21:40:58 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KaFGc-0001gH-2O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:40:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35105 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KaFFc-00064J-8Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:39:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KaFFT-00061R-QY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:39:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KaFFR-000603-Of for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:39:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33419 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KaFFR-000600-Ho for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:39:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.pajato.com ([68.191.253.210]:37963 helo=copa.pajato.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KaFFM-0008OZ-Og; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:39:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (copa.pajato.com [68.191.253.210]) by copa.pajato.com (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m81JdVxs029398; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:39:31 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080723) In-Reply-To: <874p51xblf.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (copa.pajato.com [68.191.253.210]); Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:39:32 -0400 (EDT) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103388 Archived-At: Chong Yidong wrote: > Paul Michael Reilly writes: > >> The pmail*.el and related files I created are temporary and pretty >> much only committed to the trunk as a convenience to make Rmail/mbox >> testable without having to use a branch so I didn't create a ChangeLog >> for these files. >> >> After I work out with the maintainers when to inflict Rmail/mbox on >> all Users, the ChangeLog will be created. > > Is there any reason not to inflict it *now*? Only that there will very likely be a raft of messages to the affect of "What the fuck happened to Rmail..." My oft stated opinion is that we should commit the Rmail/mbox code immediately after a release thus giving us the maximum amount of time to fix Rmail/mbox bugs. Admittedly Rmail/mbox has been less buggy than I had expected it would be in the week or so that I've been using it. Richard has found a couple of bugs, as have I, one of which was the same bug. So for me the answer to your question depends on when the next release of Emacs is targeted. If it is imminent, like in weeks or a few months, then I would advise waiting. If it won't happen for many months, then now is as good a time as any. The only area I know is incomplete is confirming that spam filtering is up to date. I think it is but there is a few commits to Rmail/babyl that I'm not sure are relevant to Rmail/mbox. Also, there is one suggestion that Richard made that will facilitate automatic conversion of Babyl formatted file to mbox format. This one should probably be completed before we make the switch. Hope that helps, -pmr