From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:22:26 +0200 Message-ID: <48BAFD82.3040606@gmail.com> References: <48B7F905.7060605@gmail.com> <001301c909e8$d63092e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <20080829155801.05fabc31.taylor@metasyntax.net> <48B8899F.6040308@harpegolden.net> <48B89284.9060202@gmail.com> <48B8AD6E.8010906@harpegolden.net> <20080830051048.GA9625@tomas> <48B9BB0D.3040902@harpegolden.net> <20080831045308.GA20578@tomas> <48BA8DD0.2030801@gmail.com> <20080831165147.GC23718@tomas> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220214165 23356 80.91.229.12 (31 Aug 2008 20:22:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 31 22:23:40 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZtSU-0006jC-PR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:23:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36597 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZtRV-00059u-Ue for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:22:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZtRR-00059f-Hl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:22:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZtRQ-00059C-3j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:22:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58609 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZtRP-000599-Ul for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:59015) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZtRP-0003R0-DF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-87.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.87]:61603 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KZtRM-0007nF-9X; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:22:29 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <20080831165147.GC23718@tomas> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080831-0, 2008-08-31), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.87 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KZtRM-0007nF-9X. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KZtRM-0007nF-9X 594723b6d97dba4dd4799692e3df6ce7 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103337 Archived-At: tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 02:25:52PM +0200, Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: >> tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: >>> Sorry. It was meant as a sarcastic remark (and as such rather >>> inconstructive, I apologize) towards those who want to impose whatever >>> inconsistent idea Windows has come up upon the rest of us. >> Writing on controversiel matters is difficult. Is not "inconsistent" >> another sarcasm? ;-) > ... > It's those behaviours I was labelling as "inconsistent" -- this was > honest and straight and not a bit sarcastic. Yes, I know (but thanks for the details). But "whatever inconsistent idea Window has come up upon" is perhaps a bit disparaging (though I tend to believe you did not notice yourself)? Not that I am very fond of w32, but saves time to avoid both disparaging and adoring expressions during discussions. If someone want to express something like that it is much better to do that separately in my opinion. And I am trying to learn that myself ... > Yep. But if you propose a different default, you might expect to hear > some screams ;-) I think I know ;-) > BTW: I'm not opposed to the idea of a "trash" can. But I'd like to see > it implemented as part of the file system. That's clean, has no security > risks, and it's not up to every single user app to (re-)implement it in a > possibly slightly different way (yes: a desktop environment is a user > app (or a bunch thereof)). Agreed.