From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:11 +0200 Message-ID: <48B86667.7060907@gmail.com> References: <48B7288E.3040503@gmail.com> <87y72f603p.fsf@comm.utoronto.ca> <001201c90a19$aaf5b7a0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <48B86486.4090605@gmail.com> <001e01c90a1b$c4b4ae60$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220044466 1217 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 21:14:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Gilaras Drakeson' To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 23:15:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZBJN-0008UV-Vt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:15:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59417 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZBIP-0002W4-E5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:14:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZBHU-000217-Vz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:13:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZBHU-00020k-Ef for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:13:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34636 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZBHU-00020Z-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:13:20 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:57140) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZBHS-0000ec-P3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:13:20 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-87.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.87]:63887 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KZBHP-0000Fg-9W; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <001e01c90a1b$c4b4ae60$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080829-0, 2008-08-29), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.87 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KZBHP-0000Fg-9W. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KZBHP-0000Fg-9W 7f7a488413d24c5aaabc6d21f7f03d92 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103213 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: >> I wonder if reversing like that is a good idea. Negation is >> sometimes a very confusing operation for our brains. If you >> have seen people struggling with logic expressions which they >> try to match what they want you have probably seen how confused >> they can be. (And I believe negation >> is even more confusing when we are stressed.) > > We're talking about setting a preference, here. This is pretty much a one-time > operation: You either want `delete' to send to the recycle bin or you want it to > delete. Whichever you choose, `S-delete' does the other. Nothing complicated > about this. No one will need to struggle with any logic expressions. ;-) Didn't you say that you were using different systems? ;-) And since `dired-internal-do-deletions' just says "Delete ..." I think it can be hard ... (Could someone please update that prompt?)