From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:08:32 +0200 Message-ID: <48B85740.8060309@gmail.com> References: <48B7288E.3040503@gmail.com> <48B73AA9.5090900@gnu.org> <48B73D8F.90501@gmail.com> <48B7AC10.6090800@gmail.com> <48B7B08B.6050103@gmail.com> <48B7F905.7060605@gmail.com> <001301c909e8$d63092e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <20080829155801.05fabc31.taylor@metasyntax.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220040586 21101 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 20:09:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'David House' , 'Eli Zaretskii' , jasonr@gnu.org, Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Taylor Venable Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 22:10:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZAIj-0006lC-91 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:10:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36746 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZAHk-0003Lt-LN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:09:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZAHH-0002eH-Po for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:09:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZAHG-0002cU-Q6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:09:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44407 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZAHG-0002cF-LQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]:56949) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZAH6-00038h-1e; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:08:52 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-87.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.87]:63745 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KZAH1-0006PD-5f; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:08:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <20080829155801.05fabc31.taylor@metasyntax.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080829-0, 2008-08-29), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.87 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KZAH1-0006PD-5f. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KZAH1-0006PD-5f c42de81e867515dd9398d15dce86b833 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103201 Archived-At: Taylor Venable wrote: > Maybe, assuming you have a Trash. But where is it? It could be the > one that Nautilus uses, or the one that Konqueror uses. If you don't > use GNOME or KDE you probably don't have a Trash. Then what is the > point of moving things there? Is this really true? Someone said that trash cans are something that belongs to the shell. On w32 that is fortunately true only in a very limited sense. You can do file deletions without using the trash can and you must use what I believe MS call "shell api". However it comes with the system! That is the important point. And of course such a component should follow with the system so that different shell developers s does not invent the wheel again. (Doing that may create a lot of work for other people.) Why not try to take that up with the GNU/Linux developers?