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From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32?
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:42:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48B737E2.5020306@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48B7288E.3040503@gmail.com>

Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote:
> I just deleted a file because I misunderstood dired. I needed that file
> (of course).
> 
> And then I found that dired did not make any backup and did not use
> windows Recycle bin.
>
> This behaviour does not make me trust for example GNU/Linux. I would
> beleive this is a behaviour implemented after how things work there. Is
> this correct? Does Emacs behave this way on GNU/Linus too?

Traditionally on unix and gnu+linux, when you say you want a file gone,
the system and programs believe you.  This is quite widely regarded as a
feature. And personally, I think trashcans just suck, they're a terrible
UI metaphor, apart from the security risks.  Things like
versioned/snapshotted filesystems with timeline views are so much neater.

That said, on typical gnu+linux desktops, there IS a trash can provided,
but emacs dired delete AFAIK doesn't use it.  It probably could (or
another "move to trash" command be provided) with relatively little
effort (nonetheless I'm not volunteering...), the spec is very simple
and widely adopted.
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/trash-spec










  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-28 23:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-28 22:37 Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-28 23:41 ` Michael Ekstrand
2008-08-29  0:16   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-28 23:42 ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2008-08-28 23:48   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-28 23:54 ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29  0:06   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29  5:39     ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29  6:51       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29  7:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29  7:58       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29  8:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29  8:17           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29  9:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29  9:43               ` David House
2008-08-29 10:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 13:26                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 14:36                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 15:06                     ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 15:11                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-08-29 16:28                         ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 15:39                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-29 16:32                         ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 16:43                           ` David House
2008-08-29 22:12                             ` René Kyllingstad
2008-08-30  0:29                               ` David House
2008-08-30  0:33                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30  1:58                                   ` David House
2008-08-31  2:32                         ` Sean Sieger
2008-08-31  2:34                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31  3:28                             ` Sean Sieger
2008-08-29 19:58                       ` Taylor Venable
2008-08-29 20:08                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 20:46                           ` Taylor Venable
2008-08-29 21:00                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 21:59                               ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-29 22:12                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 23:43                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-08-30  9:49                                   ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-30 10:18                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-30 10:43                                       ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-30 20:41                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 14:03                                   ` Taylor Venable
2008-08-30 14:11                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 22:32                                       ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-08-30 22:40                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31  3:35                                           ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-08-31  3:49                                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 23:04                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31  3:37                                           ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-08-31  6:55                                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31  6:59                                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-08-31  9:31                                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31 13:51                                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-08-31 15:04                                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 16:38                                                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-08-31 17:43                                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31 20:25                                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 10:46                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-29 20:12                         ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 23:43                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-30  0:21                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30  2:16                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-30  5:10                               ` tomas
2008-08-30 21:26                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31  4:53                                   ` tomas
2008-08-31 12:25                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 16:51                                       ` tomas
2008-08-31 20:22                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-01  4:33                                           ` tomas
2008-08-29 10:41                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29 11:35                   ` martin rudalics
2008-08-29 12:16                   ` David House
2008-08-29 13:22                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 13:45               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 14:00                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29 16:16             ` Francis Litterio
2008-08-29  9:19   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-29  8:16 ` David House
2008-08-29  8:18   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29  8:31     ` David House
2008-08-29  8:39       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 10:01 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-08-29 13:28   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 18:37     ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-08-31 12:31       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 19:26         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-31 21:49         ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-08-29 10:57 ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-29 14:35   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 18:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-29 19:59   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30  9:11     ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-30 12:42       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 13:26         ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-30 13:58           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 15:06             ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-30 17:23               ` René Kyllingstad
2008-08-30 20:40               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 22:37   ` Thomas Lord
2008-08-30  3:11     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-08-30  9:40       ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-30 10:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-30 15:03         ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-30 20:22           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30  9:36     ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-31  1:30       ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-31  6:22         ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-29 20:24 ` Gilaras Drakeson
2008-08-29 20:56   ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 21:05     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 21:11       ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 21:13         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 21:20           ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 21:54             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 22:20               ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 22:25                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 22:17   ` René Kyllingstad
2008-08-30  3:14     ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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