From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Michael Reilly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rmail-mbox branch Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:55:28 -0400 Message-ID: <48AD73D0.7080300@pajato.com> References: <87zlprvod0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4868CF84.1040005@pajato.com> <48A90589.4020804@pajato.com> <87iqtxd3ra.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <48AA72F4.50802@pajato.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219327092 30771 80.91.229.12 (21 Aug 2008 13:58:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 21 15:59:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KWAfD-00013U-Ux for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:57:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42584 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWAeG-000302-LX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:56:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KWAeC-0002zp-IU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:56:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KWAeA-0002xB-4e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:56:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45715 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWAeA-0002x4-1z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:56:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.pajato.com ([68.191.253.210]:34634 helo=copa.pajato.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KWAe9-000572-OP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:56:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.100.14] (68-191-253-213.static.oxfr.ma.charter.com [68.191.253.213]) (authenticated bits=0) by copa.pajato.com (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7LDuGNx011124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:56:16 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (copa.pajato.com [68.191.253.210]); Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:56:16 -0400 (EDT) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102774 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Here's my conundrum. I'm married to IMAP, for better or worse. I have my >> mail on a very reliable RAID5, backed up, fast server. One under my > > Adding proper IMAP support to Rmail is between difficult and impossible, Distressing but not surprising to hear. I'm guessing there has been discussions around this topic but I can't find any trace. Do you have a reference or can you elaborate? > but if you limit yourself to using the IMAP protocol in order to > download your messages (i.e. as if it were just POP), then it should be > pretty simple and indeed using GNU mailutils's code may give you this > feature for free. I am getting my messages now using the mailutil movemail which will allow me to use both Rmail/mbox and Thunderbird on a daily basis. > We do want to bring Emacs's and mailutils's movemail closer. This is very good to hear. What else can you tell me? Is someone working on it? Have constraints been established? Having movemail provide a "synchronize" operation for IMAP seems to make some sense to me but in due time I suppose. -pmr