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From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: "René Kyllingstad" <listmailemacs@kyllingstad.com>
Cc: tom.horsley@ccur.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	"Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>,
	"Jeremy Maitin-Shepard" <jbms@cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Improving X selection?
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:47:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48A9C3D2.5050408@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uzlnacpfl.fsf@smtpserver.esmertec.com>

René Kyllingstad wrote:
> * Stefan Monnier:
>>> Please ignore this if it's already been hammered to death, but what
>>> about using C-Insert/Shift-Insert for the clipboard?
>>  
>>  That would make a lot of sense to me,
> 
> I guess you're waiting for a patch.  Would anyone who has assigned
> copyrights be willing to do this?
> 

Context:  Emacs already binds S-delete/C-insert/S-insert. Though AFAIK
they do the same thing - including affecting the same X selection(s) -
as C-w/M-w/C-y (or C-x/C-c/C-v  in CUA mode)

Now, I guess what was meant was C-w/M-w/C-y to interact with PRIMARY X
Selection and emacs kill-ring and S-Delete/C-Insert/S-Insert to interact
with CLIPBOARD X Selection and emacs kill-ring.

It'd be yet another peculiar emacs cut/copy/paste thing, still not
meeting fd.o-accustomed user expectations, though at least allowing
separate handling of primary and clipboard without involving menu/toolbar.

Not exactly hard to do, mind.  If x-select-enable-primary
is globally t , and x-select-enable-clipboard is globally
nil (IIRC the defaults, so that C-w/M-w/C-y affect PRIMARY), then the
following achieves it -

(global-set-key [S-delete] 'clipboard-kill-region)
(global-set-key [C-insert] 'clipboard-kill-ring-save)
(global-set-key [S-insert] 'clipboard-yank)

[in-tree, it'd need to be changed in bindings.el and maybe s-region.el
and maybe emulation/pc-select.el  ]

It's definitely kind of handy, but IMO not as handy as my patch. But I
would say that :-)

It'd also be mildly backward-incompatible (unless complicated by
allowing customization I guess), though I would guess virtually no-one
would mind.

[Yes, I know we are in feature-freeze...]










  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-18 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20071012105022.6c8b174a@tweety>
2007-10-14 16:29 ` Improving X selection? Richard Stallman
2007-10-14 17:25   ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-10-15  6:19     ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-15  6:21       ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-15  6:41       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15  6:55       ` Miles Bader
2007-10-15  8:16         ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-15 14:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-15 18:30       ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-15 19:26         ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-10-15 20:03           ` Andreas Schwab
2007-10-15 20:22             ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-10-16  8:02               ` Frank Schmitt
2007-10-16  7:27           ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-16 10:08             ` René Kyllingstad
2007-10-16 13:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-18 15:29                 ` René Kyllingstad
2008-08-18 18:47                   ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2008-08-18 19:16                 ` David Hansen
2008-08-19  8:06                   ` Frank Schmitt
2008-08-25 15:34                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-08-25 15:56                       ` Frank Schmitt
2008-08-28 17:45                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-28 17:58                           ` Frank Schmitt
2008-08-28 18:19                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-29  5:53                               ` David Hansen
2008-08-30  4:08                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31  7:41                                   ` David Hansen
2008-08-20 22:41                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-25 15:34                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-08-26  3:09                       ` David Hansen
2008-08-26  8:03                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-26  8:41                           ` David Hansen
2007-10-16  7:26         ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-15 10:20 Horsley, Tom
2007-10-15 11:06 ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-16  4:10 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-16 23:29   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2007-10-17  1:05     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2007-12-25 21:13     ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-28 19:52       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-01-29  0:59         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-01 19:15           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-02  0:17             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-03 11:38               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-03 12:44                 ` Jan D.
2008-02-03 13:12                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-04 21:02                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-05  3:38                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-05  7:08                       ` Jan Djärv
2008-02-07  3:57                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07  4:23                           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-07  4:59                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07  9:07                           ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-07 16:32                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 17:11                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 17:13                               ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-07 19:46                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-10 18:42                                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-11 17:46                                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 17:25                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-07 17:39                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 17:51                                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 19:54                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-07 15:14                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-07 16:15                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 18:01                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-07 18:07                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 19:21                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-08  1:19                                     ` Miles Bader
2008-02-08  1:42                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 18:22                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 19:45                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-07 20:39                                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 21:25                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-07 21:41                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-08  0:22                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-08  1:26                                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 22:43                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-08  2:50                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-08 14:41                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-08 15:21                                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-17  3:38                                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-17  3:55                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 21:01                                     ` Tom Horsley
2008-02-07 21:18                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 21:36                                         ` Tom Horsley
2008-02-07 21:40                                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-07 22:51                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-03 16:18             ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-03 18:29               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-05  5:58               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-05  6:23                 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-05  6:56                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-03 16:18           ` Richard Stallman

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