From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Michael Reilly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RMAIL mbox development Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:44:10 -0400 Message-ID: <48965EEA.3040309@pajato.com> References: <87hcaj8bl0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217814361 23008 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2008 01:46:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 01:46:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 04 03:46:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KPp9v-0001yD-0x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:46:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58764 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KPp90-00052L-3j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:45:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KPp80-0003ta-QP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:44:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KPp7z-0003r7-3J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:44:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45516 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KPp7y-0003qz-PS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:44:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.pajato.com ([68.191.253.210]:44815 helo=copa.pajato.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KPp7y-00037w-7P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:44:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.102] (pool-64-223-180-82.man.east.verizon.net [64.223.180.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by copa.pajato.com (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m741ilpI010260 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:44:48 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) In-Reply-To: <87hcaj8bl0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (copa.pajato.com [68.191.253.210]); Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:44:48 -0400 (EDT) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102020 Archived-At: Chong Yidong wrote: > Per RMS's request, we're going to try to include Rmail-mbox in Emacs 23. > It may not be ready in time for the feature freeze, but we'll make a > special exception for it. In other words, the new Rmail features may be > added to the trunk during the bug-fixing/pretest period. > > Paul Michael Reilly has been working on the Rmail-mbox > code, but he needs help. If you have the time to work on this, please > email him. > Some of the big impediments to getting the mbox branch code "finished", IMHO, have been a) getting and using the branch itself just to do the necessary testing --- a pain in the butt; b) the risk of using it only to find out it's not ready for prime time and now how do I get back to Babyl...; c) testing feature A only to find out a pre-requisite feature also needs a lot of work. And did I mention that it is a CVS branch? So I've taken a new tack; creating a sibling directory to "emacs/lisp/mail" called "mbox" which contains a copy of the latest files from the "mail" directory in the rmail mbox branch partially merged with the appropriate changes from the trunk. Some changes have been deferred (converting to Babyl and supporting SPAM filtering). I'll revisit these after the basic code is running (renamed to "pmail"). The goal is to be able to run both Rmail/Babyl and Pmail/mbox simultaneously from the trunk until it is plainly clear that we can remove Rmail/Babyl and replace it with the mbox code. -pmr