From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:07:30 +0100 Message-ID: <48841992.6030604@harpegolden.net> References: <868ww3vydn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87myki6fqp.fsf@jurta.org> <87mykhz6tf.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeokrku.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeogih6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <488020A4.4060601@harpegolden.net> <873am6rb8k.fsf@jurta.org> <87r69oqojm.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216616902 14905 80.91.229.12 (21 Jul 2008 05:08:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kenichi Handa , Miles Bader To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 21 07:09:10 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KKndv-0007Jx-HV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:09:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51357 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KKnd2-0004pH-BB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:08:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KKnci-0004gn-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:07:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KKnch-0004fi-5h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:07:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33809 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KKncg-0004fZ-N1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:49553) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KKnca-0006lA-V4; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:07:41 -0400 Original-Received: from golden1.harpegolden.net (86-43-171-96.b-ras2.prp.dublin.eircom.net [86.43.171.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4143382C7; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:07:38 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080509) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101050 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > AFAIK, the main use of C-q is to insert a char by hitting the > corresponding key, handy when that key is bound to something else than > self-insert-command. > > So by using chars ? # or \ to mean something else, we get into the > situation where the user might not know how to insert #, ?, or \ when > those keys are bound to non-self-inserting commands. I think this is > a serious problem. > Well, that's true enough, though of course already applies to 0-7 or 0-9A-F depending on read-quoted-char-radix Maybe just providing read-quoted-char-radix is enough :-), especially if the #o240 -> #o377 encoding breakage is resolved. (Though one thing that springs to mind is to allow C-q ## to insert a literal #... Also, couldn't #?\ pretty easily be made another customize option? read-quoted-char-accept-elisp-literals)