From: Stephen Eilert <spedrosa@gmail.com>
To: Les Harris <lharris@gnome.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs for new users
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:16:16 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <485b0c380911231316o72b32465m4444dbadf59aca9e@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4p4rt6-2ne.ln1@lesharris.com>
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Les Harris <lharris@gnome.org> wrote:
> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > It is quite strange to not include Emacs. On the other hand it points
> > to how important it is too make it easy to start using Emacs. I think
> > we should have to move to adhere better to existing GUI standards (CUA
> > for example, but that is a hot potato).
>
> First let's get the tautologies out of the way: Emacs is a complex
> system with many features and extreme extensibility.
>
> With that axiom in mind I would argue that any attempt to add a veneer
> of simplicity over the top is doing a disservice to would-be emacs
> users.
>
The extensibility part comes with need. As users become more familiar with
Emacs, they might want to extend it to improve their workflow.
However, to reach that point, it is necessary that they become familiar with
it to begin with. I don't think anyone is suggesting that Emacs is "dumbed
down". Rather, the idea should be to make it easier for new users to
transfer their existing skills.
--Stephen
programmer, n:
A red eyed, mumbling mammal capable of conversing with inanimate
monsters.
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-23 16:37 Emacs for new users Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 16:59 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2009-11-23 18:47 ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 20:49 ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-26 22:35 ` Beeping (was: Emacs for new users) Juri Linkov
2009-11-26 23:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 4:12 ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 6:48 ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 19:25 ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 20:25 ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 23:12 ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 23:15 ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-28 1:49 ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-28 2:47 ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 17:05 ` Emacs for new users Stephen Eilert
2009-11-24 14:10 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-24 14:43 ` Renaud Casenave-Péré
2009-11-24 16:10 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-25 21:01 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-30 23:02 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-11-24 15:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 16:41 ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 17:15 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 17:27 ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-24 17:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 17:51 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-11-24 18:37 ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-24 18:03 ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 18:06 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 18:22 ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 18:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 19:35 ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 19:40 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 21:02 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25 21:04 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 21:57 ` Fernando C.V.
2009-11-25 22:05 ` Drew Adams
2009-11-25 22:27 ` Fernando C.V.
2009-11-25 22:34 ` Drew Adams
2009-11-26 6:23 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23 18:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 19:35 ` Les Harris
2009-11-23 20:28 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 21:04 ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 21:16 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 21:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 22:05 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-30 22:55 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-11-30 23:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-01 9:13 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-12-01 10:13 ` Miles Bader
2010-11-13 19:14 ` separating CUA rectangles from CUA selection mode [was: Emacs for new users] Drew Adams
2009-11-23 21:16 ` Stephen Eilert [this message]
2009-11-23 22:06 ` Emacs for new users Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 22:43 ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 22:46 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 23:55 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-24 6:43 ` tomas
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