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From: "Stephen Eilert" <spedrosa@gmail.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: tromey@redhat.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	phil@hagelb.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Package Management
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:09:47 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <485b0c380808050609y56042595l42a5bb05b34458f0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1KQHX8-0004G0-PZ@fencepost.gnu.org>

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On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Richard M. Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

>    Some unbundled Elisp packages (and some bundled ones as well, sadly)
>    have all kinds of nasty flaws.  Using CL is the least of my worries in
>    this arena,
>
> Perhaps we can't do anything about flaws in the Lisp programs that are
> distributed independently of us.  Their developers never made any
> commitment to follow our standards.  But FSF-copyrighted programs
> are GNU packages, and have maintainers who have undertaken to do so.
>

In the context of package management, who's going to enforce those package
restrictions? Should packages be approved manually before being added to
whatever repository we devise?

There are many possible uses for a packaging system. One of them is making
it easier to install packages that are *not* part of Emacs. In this context,
making it harder to submit packages is probably not a good idea. AFAIK,
there's no M-x send-paperwork yet...

There's another possible use: to enable the distribution of a "lightweight"
Emacs, removing a lot of packages that are currently bundled but providing
an easy way to get and install them. This was not my initial motivation, but
I can see some utility in that approach. In this case, it's obvious that the
packages should conform to whatever standards the FSF wants to enforce.


--Stephen

programmer, n:
       A red eyed, mumbling mammal capable of conversing with inanimate
monsters.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-05 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-01 21:27 Emacs Package Management Stephen Eilert
2008-08-01 22:58 ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-01 23:14   ` Phil Hagelberg
2008-08-01 23:25     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-02  0:13       ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-03  1:33     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-03 18:03       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-04 15:33         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-04 19:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-05  8:04             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-05 13:09               ` Stephen Eilert [this message]
2008-08-05 14:39                 ` Paul R
2008-08-06  3:35                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2009-09-16 22:36                   ` Stephen Eilert
2009-09-17  1:44                     ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 13:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17 14:26                         ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 14:58                         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-28 21:13                         ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-28 21:48                           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-28 21:54                           ` Chong Yidong
2009-09-28 22:30                             ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-29 11:31                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-29 19:18                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-29 19:41                                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-30  1:20                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-30  2:07                                     ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-30  4:39                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-30 20:18                                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-10-01  5:01                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-02  1:58   ` Stephen Eilert
2008-08-02  3:36     ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-02 17:30     ` Richard M Stallman
2008-08-12  4:10   ` Thomas Lord
2009-09-12 22:38   ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-12 23:30     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-13 16:40     ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-14  9:07       ` joakim
2009-09-14  9:26         ` David Kastrup
2009-09-15  7:16         ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15  8:30           ` Miles Bader
2009-09-15 18:15             ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15 18:58             ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-15 22:08               ` Miles Bader
2009-09-16 15:16               ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-16 18:41             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17  1:05               ` Geoff Gole
2009-09-17 19:50                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15 18:55       ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17  6:37         ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-17  8:28           ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17  8:37             ` joakim
2009-09-17  8:48               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-17  9:31               ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17 10:43                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-17 11:50                 ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-09-19  2:40                   ` Bob Rogers
2009-09-19 12:10                     ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-09-17 14:24                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 19:22                   ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17 15:04                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-17 13:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17 14:21             ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-13 17:00     ` Eric Schulte
2008-08-02 14:46 ` Paul R

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