From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: longlines-show-hard-newlines - should not the default be t? Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:49:21 +0200 Message-ID: <485EC8E1.3070707@gmail.com> References: <485DA2E7.3010207@gmail.com> <873an6l098.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <485E2345.8060605@gmail.com> <485E4550.1070707@gmail.com> <873an5mjfe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <485E93EC.5030503@gmail.com> <85wskh5nsj.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214171389 26069 80.91.229.12 (22 Jun 2008 21:49:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Emacs Devel , Miles Bader To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 22 23:50:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KAXSB-0007Se-KA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:50:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54546 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KAXRM-0003MO-Bk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:49:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KAXRI-0003MD-P4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:49:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KAXRH-0003Ln-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:49:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60955 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KAXRG-0003Lg-Vs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:49:35 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:49729) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KAXR8-000798-H4; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:49:26 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-59.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.59]:61611 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KAXR6-0006Mn-9d; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:49:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080622-0, 2008-06-22), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.145.59 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KAXR6-0006Mn-9d. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KAXR6-0006Mn-9d 59b1d86d1d7caa1b72b10f7901019979 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99722 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >> We already made the default scroll bar placement to the left because >> texts and text work tends to be left-justified. Yes, it is contrary to >> the normal expectations, but as long as it has a noticeable benefit, >> that has not kept us from improving Emacs. > > I think the default should be the same as is done for the normal > wrap-icon in the fringe: put it on both sides. E.g. put an icon on the > left at the beginning of a (long) line, and an icon on the right at the > end of a (long) line. You mean at the left of the continuation of a long line? If this is implemented as fringes, I guess there is still nothing that prevents the use of the current 'display property too?