From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: longlines-show-hard-newlines - should not the default be t? Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:03:24 +0200 Message-ID: <485E93EC.5030503@gmail.com> References: <485DA2E7.3010207@gmail.com> <873an6l098.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <485E2345.8060605@gmail.com> <485E4550.1070707@gmail.com> <873an5mjfe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214157832 15685 80.91.229.12 (22 Jun 2008 18:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Miles Bader , Stefan Monnier , Emacs Devel To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 22 20:04:36 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KATvW-0004jz-9Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:04:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46557 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KATug-00087j-TP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:03:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KATud-00087e-EY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:03:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KATud-00087S-3x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:03:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42548 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KATuc-00087P-Tf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:03:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:42160) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KATuY-0000ra-Em; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:03:34 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-59.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.59]:65057 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KATuU-0002sy-8z; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:03:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <873an5mjfe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080621-0, 2008-06-21), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.145.59 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KATuU-0002sy-8z. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KATuU-0002sy-8z 5173e4dc19f792dcb022f122002d8e78 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99701 Archived-At: Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Lennart Borgman (gmail) writes: > > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > add a paragraph-icon in the fringe of the few lines that do not wrap. > > > > But will it not be much harder to see to which line the fringe belongs? > > That's why when God created Fringes, Right *and* Left did He create > them. Put it in the left fringe (except in Hebrew and Arabic, of > course!) Yes! But creation is not finished and that is why he gave us the ability to choose, create. And actually I think using the left fringe for this would be a mistake. I think most human beeings expect to find line feeds to the right. Even though that is a human mistake it would be another not to take this into account. And the right fringes are too far away to be realistic.