From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: longlines-show-hard-newlines - should not the default be t? Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:27:19 +0200 Message-ID: <485DAA77.1040507@gmail.com> References: <485DA2E7.3010207@gmail.com> <87d4ma2s3c.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214098069 6477 80.91.229.12 (22 Jun 2008 01:27:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 22 03:28:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KAENW-00027C-Uc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:28:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34847 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KAEMh-000058-RU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:27:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KAEMc-0008Vd-KF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:27:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KAEMZ-0008U4-0Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:27:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52565 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KAEMY-0008Tx-Mc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:27:26 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]:40691) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KAEMX-0008T0-5m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:27:25 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-59.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.59]:60621 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KAEMV-0002Ku-3y; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:27:23 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <87d4ma2s3c.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080621-0, 2008-06-21), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.145.59 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KAEMV-0002Ku-3y. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KAEMV-0002Ku-3y 7e884e97fd5c9bf738f150c3d59030a9 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99652 Archived-At: Chong Yidong wrote: > "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > >> I think the default value should be t. I think longlines can be quite >> confusing otherwise. > > That runs into problems when the buffer is displayed in of different > widths. This is one of the two main limitations of longlines mode (the > other being the font-lock problem discussed before). I am sorry, but I did not follow that discussion. What are the problems? It looks to me like the display of hard new lines should be managed by font lock. Is there any problem with doing that? > I am taking a look at Kim Storm's window wrapping code. Probably it's > better to offer that from the menu bar, instead of longlines mode.