From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Longlines mode in menu Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:58:53 +0200 Message-ID: <485A11BD.9030902@gmail.com> References: <87wsl41lq0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <516DD869-4D41-4EDD-B2A3-57787DF374D7@gmail.com> <4858B5B4.2070604@gmail.com> <66259172-038D-4367-BEAC-211FE9981637@gmail.com> <48593500.1030003@gmail.com> <48597529.1000400@gmail.com> <87ej6ub7ev.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213862379 19370 80.91.229.12 (19 Jun 2008 07:59:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Reitter , Emacs-Devel devel To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 19 10:00:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K9F45-0003GV-PM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:00:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40784 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9F3G-0001UN-4e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:59:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9F32-0001O9-Rf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:59:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9F31-0001NR-7O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:59:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35249 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9F31-0001NK-2l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]:32907) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K9F2u-0006b8-Oh; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-59.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.59]:60647 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K9F2s-0003R4-3R; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:59:02 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080618-0, 2008-06-18), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.145.59 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1K9F2s-0003R4-3R. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1K9F2s-0003R4-3R a578c844e18c464879e75142046f8762 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99453 Archived-At: Miles Bader wrote: > "Lennart Borgman" writes: >>> Eh? Maybe (hopefully!) I misunderstand what's being said, but any >>> change that makes the arrow keys do the "right thing", but _not_ C-n/C-p >>> is broken, full stop. >> Both things are "right", it might be good to have both behaviors available. >> I guess those using the arrow keys more expect the new behaviour. > > In general, C-n/C-p should do exactly the same thing as the arrow keys. > > The context of this discussion AFAIK, is with regard to Kim's > display-time word-wrapping patch. The typical situation where you would > want display-time word-wrapping is when you're editing text where > there's one newline per paragraph. When editing such text, "visual" > line-movement becomes more or less a necessity for normal editing, and > clearly we want C-n/C-p to be usable for normal editing. Ok, I agree, but there are also circumstances when you want to go to the next buffer line.