From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Automatic bootstrap Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:36:24 +0100 Message-ID: <48590F58.4020201@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213796298 12269 80.91.229.12 (18 Jun 2008 13:38:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 18 15:38:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K8xs2-0000iP-Oh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:38:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53217 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K8xrE-0000eA-9m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:37:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K8xr8-0000cf-Jo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:37:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K8xr6-0000cC-Lj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:37:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51949 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K8xr6-0000c8-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:37:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]:64460) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K8xr1-00080X-2v; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:37:39 -0400 Original-X-Trace: 99381733/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/freedom2Surf-customers/83.67.23.108 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 83.67.23.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@gnu.org X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFAOSrWEhTQxds/2dsb2JhbACBW65a X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,664,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="99381733" X-IP-Direction: IN Original-Received: from i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net (HELO wanchan.jasonrumney.net) ([83.67.23.108]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 18 Jun 2008 14:36:39 +0100 Original-Received: from [192.168.249.27] (chiko.jasonrumney.net [192.168.249.27]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8082EC; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:37:26 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=8086879D X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99395 Archived-At: Richard M Stallman wrote: > A week or so there was a discussion about the inconvenience of the > existence of `make bootstrap'. I suggested that we create a source > file bootstrap.el whose compiled file, bootstrap.elc, would control > whether `make emacs' does a bootstrap or not. We could also change > bootstrap.el trivially after installing any change which we think > makes it advisable for testers to bootstrap afresh. > I don't think it will work, as developers who make changes that make it advisable to bootstrap would forget to change that file. Other developers might change it needlessly, causing testers with low end hardware unnecessary pain.