From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (re)display problems after font backend merge Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:37:00 +0100 Message-ID: <483700BC.1060101@harpegolden.net> References: <87fxsjmmo2.fsf@escher.local.home> <87fxsiczun.fsf@escher.local.home> <482E4EB0.3070003@harpegolden.net> <87wslti040.fsf@escher.local.home> <482EE57C.8050009@harpegolden.net> <87ve1cn5dz.fsf@escher.local.home> <482FA2EE.7010900@harpegolden.net> <873aofscdz.fsf@escher.local.home> <87lk226ppg.fsf@escher.local.home> <4836450B.7000403@harpegolden.net> <87y7615hn2.fsf@escher.local.home> <4836EC67.90400@harpegolden.net> <87prrd54xg.fsf@escher.local.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211564272 15325 80.91.229.12 (23 May 2008 17:37:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 17:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 23 19:38:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JzbDp-0005UK-0u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 19:38:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52420 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JzbD2-0003S5-Px for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 13:37:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JzbCx-0003Ro-Rz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 13:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JzbCq-0003R8-Ai for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 13:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34538 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JzbCq-0003R5-7X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 13:37:28 -0400 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:49516) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JzbCl-0005hJ-1U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 13:37:24 -0400 Original-Received: from golden1.harpegolden.net (unknown [86.45.14.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400EF83F0; Fri, 23 May 2008 17:37:06 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080110) In-Reply-To: <87prrd54xg.fsf@escher.local.home> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97602 Archived-At: Stephen Berman wrote: >> So.... just to cross-check - what does >> >> fc-list : family scalable | grep -i helvetica >> >> now return for you? > > Adobe Helvetica:scalable=False > scalable=False, eh? Well, I _thought_ that effectively meant no antialiasing in fontconfig/xft land*. The puzzle would be where the helvetica-like font that is antialiased is coming from, then :-). [Not sure, but may need to run fc-cache -fv both as root and as yourself, there may be a global /var/cache/fontconfig dir] fc-list :scalable=False file family scalable should return all non-scalable fonts fontconfig is seeing on your system. * in principle one can, given a big 1-bit bitmap font, extrapolate smoothed values, some amiga-era stuff used to do that IIRC, but I don't *think* xft does that.