From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (re)display problems after font backend merge Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 05:16:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4836450B.7000403@harpegolden.net> References: <87fxsjmmo2.fsf@escher.local.home> <87fxsiczun.fsf@escher.local.home> <482E4EB0.3070003@harpegolden.net> <87wslti040.fsf@escher.local.home> <482EE57C.8050009@harpegolden.net> <87ve1cn5dz.fsf@escher.local.home> <482FA2EE.7010900@harpegolden.net> <873aofscdz.fsf@escher.local.home> <87lk226ppg.fsf@escher.local.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211516200 14898 80.91.229.12 (23 May 2008 04:16:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 04:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 23 06:17:17 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JzOiR-0000IN-BK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 06:17:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36923 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JzOhg-0005r6-Ls for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 00:16:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JzOhd-0005qz-7i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 00:16:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JzOhb-0005qn-J6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 00:16:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55362 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JzOhb-0005qk-Dj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 00:16:23 -0400 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:52877) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JzOhb-0008UK-3y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 00:16:23 -0400 Original-Received: from golden1.harpegolden.net (unknown [86.45.14.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F93483CA; Fri, 23 May 2008 04:16:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080110) In-Reply-To: <87lk226ppg.fsf@escher.local.home> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97553 Archived-At: Stephen Berman wrote: > > The (active) mode line face now displays Helvetica correctly. Note, > however, that in the inactive mode line face the characters are wider, And not anti-aliased? Was this still with FontBackend: xft ? And [welcome to complication, Level 2] did you have fontconfig/xft set to allow bitmap fonts or not? While most linux distros now default to "no", if fontconfig/xft /is/ using bitmap fonts, then "new" font handling can still, depending of course on the font, result in x-core-font-like-in-appearance rendering, you see! (including in emacs with FontBackend: xft, as far as I can tell. Hmmm.) At least if you're on debian or a debian-oid (e.g. ubuntu...), this is usually controlled by which one of /etc/fonts/conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf or /etc/fonts/conf.avail/70-no-bitmaps.conf is symlinked in to /etc/fonts/conf.d/ (if you change this, you may have to run fc-cache -fv ) I recommend "no". Unless you really have a need of particular glyphs from or just can't live without some old favorite (probably monospace) bitmap font I guess. If you do enable bitmaps in fontconfig, try "fc-list :scalable=False family" in a shell to get the fontconfig names for bitmap fonts usable in fontconfig/xft apps...