From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 09:22:02 +0100 Message-ID: <4822B82A.6030003@gnu.org> References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <874p9dn46h.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210235007 3771 80.91.229.12 (8 May 2008 08:23:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 08:23:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 10:24:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ju1PM-00034R-7l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 10:23:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47898 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju1Oe-0005RJ-3j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 04:22:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju1OZ-0005R6-Hd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 04:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju1OY-0005PD-9K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 04:22:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48462 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju1OY-0005P4-18 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 04:22:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:4464) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ju1OP-00005M-Me; Thu, 08 May 2008 04:22:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-5-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.4]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ju1OO-0004C5-V3; Thu, 08 May 2008 04:22:21 -0400 Original-X-Trace: 23408660/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/freedom2Surf-customers/83.67.23.108 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 83.67.23.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@gnu.org X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgFAAdVIkhTQxds/2dsb2JhbACBU6pc X-IP-Direction: IN Original-Received: from i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net (HELO wanchan.jasonrumney.net) ([83.67.23.108]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 08 May 2008 09:22:19 +0100 Original-Received: from [192.168.249.27] (chiko.jasonrumney.net [192.168.249.27]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCCF1488; Thu, 8 May 2008 09:22:15 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=8086879D X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96734 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > On X11, when I start `emacs', the first thing that happens is to open > a frame, with the toolbar, and only after that is the .emacs > file loaded. > > So how can Emacs-22 on W32 avoid loading the image libraries before > loading the .emacs, other than by not displaying the tool-bar, and if so > how does it avoid displaying the tool-bar before loading the .emacs? > I don't know how, but when Emacs starts on Windows, the frame is blank. When messages start appearing as .emacs is loaded, the mode-line and echo area are drawn, but the rest of the frame, including toolbar, is only drawn after .emacs has been loaded. I don't think this is done especially for the toolbar images, Emacs has always started like this on Windows.