From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What IDE features are in CEDET? Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:09:51 +0200 Message-ID: <48123A8F.6090504@gmail.com> References: <200804251727.m3PHRv2b012968@projectile.siege-engine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1209154264 8290 80.91.229.12 (25 Apr 2008 20:11:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Eric M. Ludlam" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 25 22:11:39 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JpUFq-0000VT-DE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:10:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50400 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JpUFA-0006K1-72 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:10:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JpUF4-0006Ih-BV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:09:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JpUF2-0006Hn-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:09:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56032 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JpUF2-0006Hi-1e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:09:56 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JpUF1-0006I5-MJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:09:55 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-150-27.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.150.27]:63639 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JpUEz-0008C8-5J; Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:09:53 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <200804251727.m3PHRv2b012968@projectile.siege-engine.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080425-1, 2008-04-25), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.150.27 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JpUEz-0008C8-5J. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JpUEz-0008C8-5J ad35e179b95e355ec092fc3c11cdd0ac X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95951 Archived-At: Eric M. Ludlam wrote: > 2) Code parsing / Code structure database ... > I'd say that the Semantic core is stable, the core languages with > parsers are pretty good. The C++ parser really needs to be ported > from the old (semantic version 1) parser to the new bison based > parser David Ponce wrote, and the gcc-xml thing I read about > recently is another neat option that could be used. There are some good parsers that need some changes to fit into the framework: - nxml-mode XML parser. - Steve Yegge's javascript parser. It think that some parser also should be rewritten to work with parts of a buffer so that all the languages for building XHTML (like PHP etc) can be supported. A lot of programming is done with such languages today and IMO it also has a democratic value since frameworks for exchanging information (Drupal, WordPress etc) are built in those languages. > * Parsers for indenting / coloring > I get this question alot. Can a Semantic parser be used for > indentation or coloring? Answer: yes. I just haven't done it. The > more interesting question is, can a single parser provide data about > the code, indentation, and coloring at the same time without making > it too hard to maintain? I am not sure what the benefits with a single parser would be. Instead I believe that a framework that cooperates with Semantic in some way and gives it chunks with different major modes would have benefits. (I hope mumamo can provide this.)