From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs does not listen on w32 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:49:22 +0200 Message-ID: <480271D2.7040304@gmail.com> References: <4800D965.9080202@gmail.com> <480208C8.3030401@gnu.org> <480212F7.7090409@gmail.com> <4802249D.2060909@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208119788 26107 80.91.229.12 (13 Apr 2008 20:49:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, jasonr@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 13 22:50:25 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jl99d-0007D3-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:50:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jl98z-0007If-7y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:49:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jl98v-0007IG-J6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:49:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jl98r-0007I4-4p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:49:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jl98r-0007I1-0D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:49:37 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jl98i-0001Y2-2i; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:49:28 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-150-27.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.150.27]:63145 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jl98g-0003Ho-6S; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:49:26 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080413-0, 2008-04-13), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.150.27 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Jl98g-0003Ho-6S. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1Jl98g-0003Ho-6S 23ada1107f5684aa8fdb99e1f9bc8254 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95123 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:19:57 +0200 >> From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" >> Cc: Emacs Devel , >> Stefan Monnier , Jason Rumney >> WM_CLOSE should be treated more like qiut. > > Other Windows GUI applications do not behave like that: they will ask > you whether to save unsaved changes etc. Well, that is what I wanted WM_CLOSE to do, of course. I just want one additional thing first: break out of any loop that makes it impossible to exit Emacs in the normal way. > Also, an application that is > stuck in an unresponsive situation will not react to the click on the > [X] button, but will instead cause the OS to display the "program is > not responding" dialog. If that happens this is a bug in the program. The next step is that Windows offers to send a copy of the memory etc to Microsoft. > I don't think Emacs should break all these user expectations about GUI > program's behavior. Hm. You can't mean that users on w32 are used to buggy programs and that therefore Emacs also should have a similar bug? ;-)