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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255778 Archived-At: > >> I'm biased, but I do not think this is better than the guided tour / > >> interactive guide proposal that Yuan Fu and me sent a few days ago. > > > >> Moreover the guided tour proposal introduces the most important > >> concepts of Emacs, and explains how to find help, which I believe is > >> very important if the point is the help people getting (and staying!) > >> into the Emacs universe. > > > > A tour is different from a button to get a set of features. >=20 > Did you have a look at the proposal? I realize that there has been so > much traffic here that you may have missed it. It combines the two > aspects: buttons to set a number of features that newcomers might want to > turn on, and explanations to guide their first steps. Your feedback woul= d > be most welcome. A tour with ability to choose stuff on the fly is still different from a mode for a set of settings and an interface to "customize" or add to those settings. IMO. The latter lets you turn the mode on/off anytime. And it lets you "customize" it anytime. Those things are not mixed in with following a tour. Letting a tour give you one way to "customize" such a mode would be fine. But you shouldn't need to go through a tour to do that. IOW, they're related, but not the same, I think.