From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Feature request: Menu item "load init files" after -q/-Q Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:34:07 +0200 Message-ID: <47F6749F.8050809@gmail.com> References: <47F66D8F.6090208@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207334074 29116 80.91.229.12 (4 Apr 2008 18:34:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 04 20:35:05 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jhqki-0001G7-7V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:35:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jhqk5-0000EQ-KA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:34:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jhqk2-0000DU-Fm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:34:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jhqk0-0000Bb-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:34:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jhqk0-0000BT-MM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:34:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jhqk0-0002VK-JD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:34:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Jhqk0-0003gK-8V for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:34:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jhqjx-0002Uy-Q6 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:34:20 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jhqjt-0002U3-Ep; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:34:13 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-150-27.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.150.27]:65357 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jhqjr-00070K-8c; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:34:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080404-0, 2008-04-04), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.150.27 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Jhqjr-00070K-8c. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1Jhqjr-00070K-8c 380bf986b243747d9d03cce6ea2a7b80 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94365 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21873 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:03:59 +0200 >> From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" >> CC: Reiner Steib , emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org >> >>> If a non-trivial .emacs is loaded after Emacs starts, the effect might >>> be different from the same .emacs loaded at startup, due to the stage >>> of the startup sequence where .emacs is normally loaded. This could >>> surprise users, unless we write a special load function that takes >>> care of these subtleties. >> But is not that an argument in favor of the menu item then? > > I don't see how what I wrote could be in favor or against the menu > item. > > What I tried to say was that a simple (load "~/.emacs") is not what > this feature should do, whether from the menu bar or from some other > place. Yes, that is what I meant. Maybe there should be a function doing what is required then. And placing that on the menu is rather natural then IMO.