From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thomas Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:11:28 -0700 Message-ID: <47F01E20.2000504@emf.net> References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324200911.GA1310@muc.de> <001e01c88dee$34267e90$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <20080324210229.GB1310@muc.de> <85r6dsm1vz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <47F01743.4040503@emf.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206916317 3431 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2008 22:31:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: M Jared Finder , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thomas Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 31 00:32:28 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jg64f-0002n9-UG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:32:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg643-0004JP-Uv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:31:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg63t-0004GS-Cn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:31:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg63r-0004Fn-Qs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:31:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg63r-0004Fg-Do for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:31:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.42inc.com ([205.149.0.25]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (SSL 3.0:RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jg63n-0000ql-Lp; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:31:31 -0400 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.5 X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter-42inc: Scanned X-42-Virus-Scanned: by 42 Antivirus -- Found to be clean. Original-Received: from [69.236.65.4] (account lord@emf.net HELO [192.168.1.64]) by mail.42inc.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 26748249; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:31:24 -0700 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060808) In-Reply-To: <47F01743.4040503@emf.net> X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93970 Archived-At: In general, 90% of the (presumably) desired behavior of shift-select is from a user perspective "A way to invoke some other command in a special context." A tiny number of commands in those other applications are in any way aware of shift selection but, mostly, it's just built into how text works. (At least from a user perspective.) Invoke *any* command in the right dynamic context and the selection DTRT. So just give the user a means to invoke that special dynamic context. The code should reflect that. It's mostly a way commands can be invoked, not a property of each and every command. -t