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From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:38:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E37419.6080708@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803201704.m2KH4HVt023198@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu>



Dan Nicolaescu skrev:
> Could you please respect the mail headers? (This is not the fist time
> you are doing this).
> 
> "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> 
>   > > It would be nice if [ and ] that appear in the mode-line in
>   > > recursive-edit had a tooltip explaining what they are.  Such tooltips
>   > > will be helpful for beginners.
>   > > 
>   > > Can someone please add the tooltips?
>   > 
>   > Why do you suggest a change and then, in the same breath, ask someone to go
>   > ahead and install it? Isn't that jumping the gun a bit?
> 
> It is jumping the gun when dealing with someone that just wants to
> nitpick.  Someone that wants to cooperate can choose to actually discuss
> the idea.
> 
>   > I, for one, think this enhancement would be silly. Tooltips for the
>   > mode-line abound already. 
> 
> The logic here is flawed: the fact that the mode-line has tooltips for
> other unrelated items has zero implications about the tooltips for
> recursive-edit.  
> To explain why this is needed: good UI design provides clues for what
> the elements of the UI.  Tooltips are a way to provide such clues, we
> use them already.

But it is very annoying with all this new tool tips when you have 
tooltip-use-echo-area set to t.  The minibuffer expands and shrinks for 
multiline tooltips just because you happen to pass the modeline with the pointer.

Is there a way to turn off modeline tooltips?  I think that would be useful.

	Jan D.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-21  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20 15:08 mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-20 16:46 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-20 17:04   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-20 17:26     ` Drew Adams
2008-03-20 17:42       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-21  7:07       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-21 14:28         ` Drew Adams
2008-03-21 17:45           ` [OT] Mail-Followup-To, Outlook (was: mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit) Reiner Steib
2008-03-21 18:42             ` Drew Adams
2008-03-21 19:45               ` [OT] Mail-Followup-To, Outlook Reiner Steib
2008-03-22  1:02               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-21 18:36           ` mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-21 18:22         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-21 19:11           ` Mail-Followup-To (was: mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit) Reiner Steib
2008-03-21 23:22             ` Mail-Followup-To Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-21 23:51               ` Mail-Followup-To Reiner Steib
2008-03-21  8:38     ` Jan Djärv [this message]
2008-03-21 21:47       ` mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit Nick Roberts
2008-03-21 22:03         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-21 22:10           ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-22  1:29             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  9:38               ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10  6:20                 ` Nick Roberts
2008-04-10  7:27                   ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10  8:38                     ` Nick Roberts
2008-04-10  9:06                       ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10 16:18                     ` Drew Adams
2008-04-10 18:32                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-10 18:45                         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-10 21:21                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-11  5:23                             ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-11  6:47                               ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-11 16:28                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-10 20:29                       ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10 21:14                         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-11  5:21                           ` Jan Djärv
2008-03-20 23:59 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-21  7:06   ` Dan Nicolaescu

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