From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:56:54 +0100 Message-ID: <47D86DC6.4080805@gmail.com> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8763vy95a6.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87wsoc39i8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <877igb7dsi.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87hcff5upc.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87fxuxsg3m.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87r6egp8oo.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205366258 8406 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2008 23:57:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 13 00:58:06 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZapX-0000q6-Ql for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:57:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZaoz-0005Io-1Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:57:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZaou-0005IY-Ss for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:57:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZaot-0005I2-IO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:57:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZaot-0005Hp-Ab for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:57:15 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZaol-0008By-Tl; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:57:08 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-148-228.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.148.228]:64535 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JZaog-0006bD-7G; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:57:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080312-0, 2008-03-12), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.148.228 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JZaog-0006bD-7G. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1JZaog-0006bD-7G 8a3789a90b4a95b4b3a6b282fbae1a11 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92340 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > AFAICT, the approach I proposed where most/all the movement commands get > changed to call a special function in the interactive spec wouldn't > suffer from any such problems. I think it's the best approach so far. I can not see what the advantage with an interactive spec over a property on the function name is. Could you please tell? To me Kim's suggestion using a property seems much more flexible and easier to implement. And for the actual implementation of activating/deactivating the mark I can not see the advantage of doing it directly in the command loop instead of in special hooks before and after pre/post-command-hook. Doing it there seems more flexible to me and it can also be implemented in elisp. (But maybe this is not an issue at all?)