From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:00:27 +0100 Message-ID: <47CF341B.4070700@gmail.com> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d4q8sq9c.fsf@jurta.org> <873ar47n28.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87r6eorams.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204761685 365 80.91.229.12 (6 Mar 2008 00:01:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 00:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bastien , Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 06 01:01:52 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JX3YT-0004Ug-RA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:01:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JX3Xw-00055G-RQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:01:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JX3Xt-000557-77 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:01:13 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JX3Xr-00054c-L8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:01:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JX3Xr-00054Z-H1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:01:11 -0500 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JX3Xq-0002Is-JT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:01:10 -0500 Original-Received: from c83-254-148-228.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.148.228]:64921 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JX3Xo-000293-5S; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:01:08 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <87r6eorams.fsf@jurta.org> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080305-1, 2008-03-05), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.148.228 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JX3Xo-000293-5S. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JX3Xo-000293-5S 4c8b0ab5aec74ebe402890c87ee04a36 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91444 Archived-At: Juri Linkov wrote: >>>>> - selection with Shift-arrow keys >>>> I think this would be a good default. If someone is willing to make a >>>> patch that refactors this code from cua-mode into simple.el, it would >>>> be worth considering. >>> Unfortunately, I see no way of implementing this in simple.el without >>> using pre-command-hook and post-command-hook. It seems this can be >>> implemented only in C in the function that reads characters. >> On top of this, Shift-arrow keys are already in use in org-mode. > > This is not a reason to make Emacs unfriendly to newbies that expect > Shift-arrow keys to work like in other programs. Could you change > these keys in org-mode to e.g. Meta-arrows or something? org-mode has already support for changing this, see the variable `org-replace-disputed-keys'