From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:44:23 +0100 Message-ID: <47BC9F37.1010301@gmail.com> References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878x1ov227.fsf@jurta.org> <878x1os6mt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85ablvftqe.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203552238 25080 80.91.229.10 (21 Feb 2008 00:03:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, Sascha Wilde , emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, storm@cua.dk, acm@muc.de, Miles Bader To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 21 01:17:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRz7b-0001HW-55 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:17:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRyr3-0004j8-QH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:00:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRwkR-0008L7-0d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:45:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRwkP-0008Hl-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:45:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRwkO-0008HX-PV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:45:01 -0500 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRwkD-0004qf-Qq; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:44:50 -0500 Original-Received: from c83-254-148-228.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.148.228]:64103 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRwk8-0007cE-4b; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:44:46 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080220-0, 2008-02-20), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.148.228 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JRwk8-0007cE-4b. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JRwk8-0007cE-4b f070cc4e0550db8bd0727c2af3b3a1a3 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:54:48 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89754 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > The issue of the mark being active when you don't want it, is > particularly acute for people who push marks for navigation purposes. > Maybe we could make C-SPC C-SPC in tmm push the mark and deactivate it. > That might be sufficient for those people who occasionally push marks > for navigation. For those who do it often, the best is for them to turn > off transient-mark-mode. I am still trying to grasp the problem. Apart from the region to act with CUA keys like in all main applications I use today I would expect * operations on the region should only happen when the region is visible However this seems to interfere with the definition of the mark as active/inactive. Is this necessary?