From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:04:40 +0100 Message-ID: <47BC6BB8.5080900@gmail.com> References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878x1ov227.fsf@jurta.org> <878x1os6mt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203530755 12408 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2008 18:05:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, Stefan Monnier , storm@cua.dk, acm@muc.de, Miles Bader To: Sascha Wilde Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 20 19:06:18 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRtK7-0003Np-OI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:05:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRtJc-0003KS-M7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:05:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRtJX-0003KE-D7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:05:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRtJW-0003J4-0v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:05:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRtJV-0003It-OH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:05:01 -0500 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRtJO-000504-10; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:04:54 -0500 Original-Received: from c83-254-148-228.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.148.228]:62667 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRtJH-0002dA-8x; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:04:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080219-0, 2008-02-19), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.148.228 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JRtJH-0002dA-8x. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1JRtJH-0002dA-8x f6efc30bb63788eec023915de15f1b99 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89719 Archived-At: Sascha Wilde wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: >> So, that's for my personal preference. As to why turn it on *by >> default*, here are some reasons why I think it should be ON by default: > [...] > > One important reason against it is, that it makes uses of the mark ring > other than marking text very unpleasant. The manual starts section 12.6 > with the example of using the mark to mark interesting spots in an > buffer so that one can easily jump between them (in many cases this is > faster than saving positions in registers and therefor very > convenient). In such cases the highlighting of text between point and > the last mark is distracting and useless. Thanks for this explanation. In line with Davids thoughts I wonder if this behaviour can be improved. (Not yours, Emacs ...) Do you have any suggestions?