From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:49:39 +0100 Message-ID: <47BB6B13.9030804@gmail.com> References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <7dbe73ed0802191545p3ff130came6223617e43c8466@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203465087 29789 80.91.229.12 (19 Feb 2008 23:51:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, Dan Nicolaescu , storm@cua.dk, Alan Mackenzie , Miles Bader To: Mathias Dahl Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 20 00:51:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRcFR-000526-U8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:51:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRcEw-0003gR-Dq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:51:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRcEZ-0003Hz-3t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:50:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRcEV-0003Cb-Pz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:50:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRcEV-0003CN-Kz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:50:43 -0500 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRcEN-0004Vo-Qx; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:50:36 -0500 Original-Received: from c83-254-148-228.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.148.228]:59833 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRcEL-0001jJ-48; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:50:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <7dbe73ed0802191545p3ff130came6223617e43c8466@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080219-0, 2008-02-19), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.148.228 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JRcEL-0001jJ-48. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JRcEL-0001jJ-48 35eb31c9a2dcdaa9f8d1e1d092de6878 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89621 Archived-At: Mathias Dahl wrote: >> Actually, many of us think it works pretty well. >> >> Not that it can't be improved, of course. > > I tested in emacs -Q just now and have to say that it seems to work > well. I have previously had some problems with it like the region > suddenly being highlighted when I did not expect it to or commands not > working when the region was not highlighted. All of that seems to be > solved. For a new user I would guess having the region highlighted > when not expected is the most confusing and annoying thing, it kind of > feels like some sticky thing follows the cursor. If we have eliminated > all those "false positives" (I don't remember now when I got that > behavior) I think this will be a good default. More experienced users > can easily change the appropriate setting to get the behavior they > like. > > I like it. Don't we all think that new users probably want the highlight the way cua-mode does it?