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From: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org,
	"Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
	Edward O'Connor <hober0@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:47:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BB5C93.2040201@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zltwwte1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Not removed, disabled (in some cases).  Specifically, if the *user* or
> some application programmer uses `prefer-coding-system' with a
> non-Unicode (non-UTF-8?) argument, he won't get the result he expects
> for some XML files.  (This is true of my proposal as well, but I'm
> proposing that XML encoding be explicitly decoupled from Mule
> guesswork, so it doesn't bother me.)
>
> In case you're forgotten, this is precisely the kind of behavior that
> distresses the OP.
>   


That's the behaviour that the OP thinks distresses him. But other 
encodings are highly unlikely to be mistaken for UTF-8, so in practice, 
pushing UTF-8 to the front of the prefer-coding-system queue is unlikely 
to distress him.

What is really distressing the OP is that UTF-8 was previously forced, 
which caused his file to load with binary non-characters in place of his 
latin-1 characters, and if he doesn't notice it and edits the file, the 
only coding system he can save as is "raw-text" (and I'm not sure 
whether the result will be recoverable once he does that).

Compounding that, is nxml-mode was ignoring the request to save as 
raw-text and forcing utf-8 again, which fails, so the changes cannot be 
saved.






  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-19 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-15  9:06 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8) Sébastien Vauban
2008-02-15 22:32 ` Edward O'Connor
2008-02-15 22:54   ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-15 23:24     ` Miles Bader
2008-02-15 23:34       ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-15 23:42         ` Miles Bader
2008-02-16  3:42           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  2:49       ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-18  3:01         ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-16  4:03   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-16  7:17     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-16  9:58       ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-16 11:23         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-16 12:07           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-17  3:52             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-17 14:31               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-17 22:24                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-17 22:27                   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  0:07                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18  3:16                       ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  6:26                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18  6:40                           ` Miles Bader
2008-02-19  7:17                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-19  7:19                               ` Miles Bader
2008-02-19 21:03                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-19 22:47                                   ` Jason Rumney [this message]
2008-02-19 22:58                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-02-20  0:43                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-19 15:50                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-19 22:02                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18 14:59                           ` Projects and multi-file documents (was: 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8)) Stefan Monnier
2008-02-18 18:51                             ` Projects and multi-file documents Ralf Angeli
2008-02-18 16:35                   ` 23.0.60; Defaut encoding for XML files should be undefined (instead of utf-8) Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-16 17:03           ` Jason Rumney
2008-02-16 17:31             ` David Kastrup
2008-02-17  3:53             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-18  3:22               ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18  6:01                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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