From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: w32 issues Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:07:28 +0000 Message-ID: <4793C620.2000500@gnu.org> References: <200801192020.m0JKKUWl017748@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200801201710.m0KHAoKn021472@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <479388A9.9010600@gmail.com> <200801201755.m0KHtuDH003880@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <47938D58.4010809@gmail.com> <200801201820.m0KIKxtW012230@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <47939341.6010903@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200866876 17751 80.91.229.12 (20 Jan 2008 22:07:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dann@ics.uci.edu, "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 20 23:08:14 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JGiKr-0000XQ-O0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:08:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JGiKS-0000Nt-FT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:07:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JGiKO-0000MC-Se for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:07:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JGiKJ-0000I2-90 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:07:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JGiKJ-0000Hs-0V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:07:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JGiKF-00044c-6Y; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:07:35 -0500 Original-X-Trace: 14623051/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/freedom2Surf-customers/83.67.23.108 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 83.67.23.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@gnu.org X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAEpVk0dTQxds/2dsb2JhbAAIqmo X-IP-Direction: OUT Original-Received: from i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([83.67.23.108]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 20 Jan 2008 22:07:33 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) In-Reply-To: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87137 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > You mean that printing is broken? I don't agree with your wording, > but I have no objections to saying something like "Emacs will hang if > the user tries to print to a port that has no printer device connected > to it." > Since that issue is a Windows problem, and unfixable in Emacs AFAIK, I think the problem to put in FOR-RELEASE is that the DEFAULT setting for printer-name on windows is a port that in 2008, will not be connected to a printer for probably more than 90% of users. I am confused by all the code we have for printing these days. There is a function default-printer-name, which would seem to offer a big improvement on what we have now. It is used in dos-w32.el in functions called from printing.el, but the code in printing.el does not seem to be involved in the standard ps-print-* or print-* commands.