From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.50; ps-print-buffer-with-faces hangs on w32 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:47:54 +0000 Message-ID: <4787495A.1010200@gnu.org> References: <4784F452.6060202@gmail.com> <47851163.8050205@ig.com.br> <47850C39.5060905@gmail.com> <47862D83.3030709@gnu.org> <478643B8.5010903@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200048619 12088 80.91.229.12 (11 Jan 2008 10:50:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 11 11:50:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JDHTA-0002QW-Qy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:50:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JDHSn-0004co-2Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:50:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JDHR0-0002Tj-BW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:48:22 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JDHQy-0002RC-Ar for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:48:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JDHQy-0002R0-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:48:20 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDHQx-0007fT-C1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:48:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JDHQw-00025E-Tu for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:48:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDHQt-0007eN-T1 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:48:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDHQp-0007ci-QY; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:48:11 -0500 Original-X-Trace: 10346016/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$ACCEPTED/freedom2Surf-customers/83.67.23.108 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 83.67.23.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@gnu.org X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAKbYhkdTQxds/2dsb2JhbAAIkWiYPg Original-Received: from i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([83.67.23.108]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 11 Jan 2008 10:48:10 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) In-Reply-To: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86735 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:20585 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > If the option is off by default, it won't help. If it is on, it will > annoy, and will generally be useless anyway, since the user cannot do > anything about this warning, except give up the printing command. If > she doesn't give up, and she is in your situation, she will hang. > There's no way for her to find out whether she will or will not hang. > Perhaps we should give up trying to make printing work out of the box on Windows, and instead produce an error by default telling the user they need to configure printing. In an office environment, printers are likely to be on the network, and the user will have to configure Emacs anyway. In a home environment, the printer is increasingly likely to be a USB connected inkjet or cheap laser that does not expose a character device for Windows to map to PRN.