From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: LENNART BORGMAN Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AltGr finger twisters documented? Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:15:09 +0200 Message-ID: <47811c547866f3.47866f347811c5@net.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120563377 22749 80.91.229.2 (5 Jul 2005 11:36:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 05 13:36:07 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpliK-0005Od-MJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:35:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dplja-0003k9-FK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpljK-0003k0-7P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:36:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpljI-0003ja-Gc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:36:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpliM-0003If-Jn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:35:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [130.235.208.46] (helo=piraten.student.lu.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DplUP-000760-OZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:21:22 -0400 Original-Received: from net.lu.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by piraten.student.lu.se (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IJ5008AMJ99GV@piraten.student.lu.se> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:15:09 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from [212.209.42.132] by piraten.student.lu.se (mshttpd); Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:15:09 +0200 Original-To: Juanma Barranquero X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003) Content-language: sv Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: sv Priority: normal X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40409 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40409 ----- Original Message ----- From=3A Juanma Barranquero =3Clekktu=40gmail=2Ecom=3E Date=3A Tuesday=2C July 5=2C 2005 11=3A34 am Subject=3A AltGr finger twisters documented=3F =3E After an exchange of comments on the Emacs wiki=2C that left me = =3E wondering=2E=2E=2E =3E Is there any place in the Emacs documentation that explains that you =3E *can* type C-M-=40=2C C-=40=2C C-M-=5C=2C C-=5C and C-=5D on an AltGr= -challenged =3E keyboard=2C *provided* that you use the right order=2C i=2Ee=2E=2C Al= tGr=2C right =3E Ctrl=2C and then the modified key=3F =3E = =3E For example=2C on my Spanish keyboard=3A =3E = =3E C-M-=40 =3D=3E AltGr RCtrl Alt 2 =3E C-=40 =3D=3E AltGr RCtrl 2 =3E C-M-=5C =3D=3E AltGr RCtrl Alt =BA =3E C-=5C =3D=3E AltGr RCtrl =BA =3E C-=5D =3D=3E AltGr RCtrl + =3E = =3E It is non-obvious=3A it doesn=27t work if you press other key before =3E AltGr=2C or if you use left control=2E Wow=2C I had not the slightest idea! And I have complained and asked abou= t issues related to this =2E=2E=2E - maybe I was to unclear=3F I looked (= again) in (emacs) Info but could not find much about AltGr=2E