From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "CHANGED outside Customize" in frames customization group Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:33:55 +0100 Message-ID: <47768503.9010108@gmx.at> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1198949622 28150 80.91.229.12 (29 Dec 2007 17:33:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 29 18:33:56 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J8fZF-0000zH-Fq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:33:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J8fYu-0006D5-5n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:33:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J8fYr-0006D0-7W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:33:25 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J8fYp-0006Co-QD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:33:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J8fYp-0006Cl-Ke for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:33:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J8fYp-00085Q-4k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:33:23 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Dec 2007 17:33:21 -0000 Original-Received: from N935P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.60.193]) [62.47.60.193] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 29 Dec 2007 18:33:21 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19CJZ8P9FZCmTcYdQ4iOQZiAXwxpqAkrvVZzt5Qfz XeB2UQwyJyJnRh User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85619 Archived-At: >>Maybe these variables shouldn't be customizable in the first place. >>Else we should try to improve the user interface. > > > I do hope that first suggestion is an early April Fool's joke. ;-) Why do you think so? The doc-string of `default-frame-alist' states: These may be set in your init file, like this: (setq default-frame-alist '((width . 80) (height . 55) (menu-bar-lines . 1))) In my book suggesting the use of `setq' to set a variable contradicts the very idea of customizing that variable.