From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Fwd: Frame Height Different for Default Frame and Additional Frames] Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:51:32 +0100 Message-ID: <47758C04.9050908@gmx.at> References: <002501c8044b$fcc95390$6100000a@intermedinc.internal> <4701F8AC.6070900@gmx.at> <470A9D22.2040709@gmx.at> <470BF1BF.3000609@gmx.at> <470C695D.5010906@swipnet.se> <470DE439.1030603@gmx.at> <470E655E.10905@swipnet.se> <4773F8BA.4090009@gmx.at> <47755756.20601@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1198885951 12807 80.91.229.12 (28 Dec 2007 23:52:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: bob@rattlesnake.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 29 00:52:45 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J8P0F-0001rw-M3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:52:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J8Ozu-0005I9-Ce for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:52:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J8Ozp-0005Ef-21 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:52:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J8Ozm-0005AH-1y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:52:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J8Ozl-0005A1-So for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:52:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J8Ozl-0007z1-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:52:05 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Dec 2007 23:52:04 -0000 Original-Received: from N707P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.32.80]) [62.47.32.80] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 29 Dec 2007 00:52:04 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+eoXBZU62e7bi/c1gDYNkT6d7lDJnuDRHSBlssu3 3xiZu/vuCajB7G User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85576 Archived-At: > What I wanted to express above is that my initial Emacs frame has > the same height regardless of whether I have toolbars enabled or > not. > > That is a different issue than RMS was dealing with. As far as I > understand, he was concerned with the number of lines of text. Apparently for Gtk+ users the height changes but the number of visible lines remains the same when toggling `tool-bar-mode'. For native toolbar users the height remains the same and the number of visible lines changes. I reported this only to explain the behavior of Emacs with native toolbars as seen here. > Toolbars on my system take up two lines and the heights of an Emacs > instance in X, the first frame, changes, although at the moment the > number of text lines stay the same regardless whether I evaluate > > (tool-bar-mode 0) > or > (tool-bar-mode 1) > > (As I said earlier, the height of the first frame changes.) > > I like it that the number of lines of text stays the same. If I had two Emacs frames aligned one above the other I probably would mind if one of them changed size without being asked to do so. But I can't really tell because I don't use toolbars and never count the number of lines of frames - my Emcas always runs full screen.