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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257083 Archived-At: On October 5, 2020 8:51:24 AM GMT+02:00, Eli Zaretskii wr= ote: >> From: Stefan Monnier >> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2020 02:15:46 -0400 >> Cc: Qiantan Hong , Fermin , >> Caio Henrique , Ergus , >> Noam Postavsky , Karl Fogel >, >> Eli Zaretskii , Emacs developers >>=20 >> > - polish the code, propose it to main stream Emacs inclusion, add >the license >>=20 >> I don't see why this should be in Emacs itself rather than in a GNU >> ELPA package=2E > >I don't mind having it in either place, FWIW, but AFAICT the package >still needs quite a lot of work before it can be published in either >of them=2E Of course it does need work=2E He started it from scratch almost a week ag= o; it is surprising he brought something working so quickly=2E Still benchm= arks and security improves are needed; maybe use JSON to serialize info=2E= =2E=2E But he needs some more time=20 I think that elpa is a better place to have this ATM=2E But maybe he can h= ost it somewhere in savannah to start with? So the others could start colla= borating with him in parallel? I don't know the procedure for that=2E Ergus