From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Michael Olson <mwolson@gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: remember(-diary).el
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:44:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47542446.9010400@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874pezx141.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org>
Michael Olson wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> From: Michael Olson <mwolson@gnu.org>
>>> I want to be able to pop up a warning window upon loading a file
>>> (this window can be disabled by the user) which tells people of the
>>> issue, and which registry key to change in order for it not to be a
>>> problem anymore.
>> That's be harassing the user, a very un-Emacsy thing to do, IMO.
>
> I don't think of it as harassing the user -- if something has
> nondeterministic behavior whenever its source code gets checked out, I
> want to warn people about it. Obviously the message that appears would
> need to be invective-free and informative. And since it appears during
> load, it needs to contain instructions for how to disable the display of
> the message.
One may feel differently about this, but for me it sounds like the right
thing to do in a case like this. It is however very important that the
message is (very) easy to turn off - and that the information in the
message is easy to find again.
Actually I believe that this way of handling the problem is what
computer users expects today. However I also agree with Eli that it
could be harassing the user. It must be used with caution.
I have tried to avoid this as much as possible (though I felt a bit
differently in the beginning). In one important case I use it now. It is
for a package where you do not get the full benefit of it unless you
turn on some things that may influence Emacs outside of that package
too. I then inform the user of that this way, using display-buffer to
show the message and from there the user can turn on those things or
just choose not to see the message any more.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-03 15:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-21 7:24 remember(-diary).el martin rudalics
2007-11-21 7:32 ` remember(-diary).el Miles Bader
2007-11-21 8:39 ` remember(-diary).el Glenn Morris
2007-11-21 18:49 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-21 23:57 ` remember(-diary).el John Wiegley
2007-11-21 8:44 ` remember(-diary).el martin rudalics
2007-11-21 13:55 ` remember(-diary).el Miles Bader
2007-11-21 17:06 ` remember(-diary).el martin rudalics
2007-11-21 18:50 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-22 2:13 ` remember(-diary).el Miles Bader
2007-11-22 4:18 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-22 8:57 ` remember(-diary).el martin rudalics
2007-11-22 9:44 ` remember(-diary).el joakim
2007-11-23 4:35 ` remember(-diary).el Richard Stallman
2007-11-23 20:56 ` remember(-diary).el Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-11-23 21:46 ` remember(-diary).el David Kastrup
2007-11-22 10:41 ` remember(-diary).el Leo
2007-11-22 23:57 ` remember(-diary).el Juri Linkov
2007-11-23 0:10 ` remember(-diary).el Leo
2007-11-30 6:17 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-11-30 8:27 ` remember(-diary).el Leo
2007-11-30 12:40 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-11-22 2:27 ` remember(-diary).el Richard Stallman
2007-11-30 6:22 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-11-30 16:48 ` remember(-diary).el Richard Stallman
2007-11-30 18:42 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-11-30 19:06 ` remember(-diary).el Glenn Morris
2007-11-30 22:11 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-11-30 22:22 ` remember(-diary).el Leo
2007-12-01 9:07 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-01 9:56 ` remember(-diary).el David Kastrup
2007-12-01 9:06 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-02 21:33 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-12-03 4:18 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-03 15:13 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-12-03 15:44 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) [this message]
2007-12-03 1:05 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-12-03 4:22 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-03 14:40 ` remember(-diary).el Stefan Monnier
2007-12-03 20:51 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-01 17:59 ` remember(-diary).el Richard Stallman
2007-11-30 20:57 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-30 22:07 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-12-05 1:22 ` remember(-diary).el Michael Olson
2007-12-05 4:46 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-21 18:24 ` remember(-diary).el Sven Joachim
2007-11-21 18:54 ` remember(-diary).el Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-22 13:32 ` remember(-diary).el martin rudalics
2007-11-22 23:57 ` remember(-diary).el Juri Linkov
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