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From: Chetan Pandya <pandyacus@sbcglobal.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org,
	rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Terminology in multi-tty primitives
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:29:26 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <475362.53773.qm@web83203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7i5bn4ui.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> > However, are we really that sure users won't want to have an ability
> > to create frames on other tty's?  By the same token, why do we have
> > make-frame-on-display? the same reason(s) would be arguments to retain
> > make-frame-on-tty.
> 
> Not really: 99.99% of the time, ttys are controlled by a shell, or some
> other program, so if we use M-x make-frame-on-tty RET we get into
> a situation where 2 programs use this tty at the same time, without any
> synchronization between them.  I've used it for debug
> purposes (to circumvent the server.el and emacsclient code), but it
> tends to give you various forms of display corruption, so it's not really
> appropriate for a user command.
> 
> >> - still, when make-frame is called with an explicit `tty' argument but
> >> without an explicit `window-system' argument, the right thing to do is
> >> to give precedence to the `tty' and choose an appropriate window-system for it.
> 
> > If we don't need this, why introduce it?
> 
> It's not crucial indeed.
> 
> 
>         Stefan

On my system I cannot create a tty frame, but isn't there supposed to be the ability to create multiple frames on a terminal?

Would it make sense to fix the problems, if there are any, or just remove the ability to do that, if not?

Chetan





  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-04  3:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-27 18:23 Terminology in multi-tty primitives Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28  1:00 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28  4:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28  4:28     ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28 19:18       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28 19:43         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-29  5:31         ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-29 19:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-29 22:09         ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-30  2:18           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-30 22:26             ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31  2:06               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31  2:20                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31  3:20                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31  4:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31  6:25                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 18:47                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:39                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 21:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:55                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 22:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 23:03                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 16:38                 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31 17:22                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 19:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-01 17:13                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-02 13:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-03  2:32                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-03  9:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-04  3:14                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-04  3:29                                 ` Chetan Pandya [this message]
2009-01-04  3:41                                   ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-04  4:54                                     ` Chetan Pandya
2008-12-30 22:27             ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31  5:31               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31  6:28                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31  8:33                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31 14:18                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-31 15:42                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-28 17:29 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-28 19:33   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-30 19:53   ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-27 18:16 Eli Zaretskii

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