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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org,
	Stephen Berman <Stephen.Berman@gmx.net>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: invisible
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:10:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <474B1A1D.4050901@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvejedoxcx.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

 > The point-adjustment already tries to move point to the non-sticky side
 > of an invisible text so that text inserted is indeed visible.

When I do `facemenu-set-invisible' on a region, subsequently inserted
text is invisible.  I have hardly an opinion on that because I didn't
even know about this function before.  But I think inserted text should
go before the invisible text if `point' was at the beginning and after
invisible text if `point' was at the end of the region.

 > The rear-nonsticky change proposed above will just make both ends
 > non-sticky so the point-adjustment will not have a preference and will
 > sometimes choose one sometimes the other.

I agree that would be bad.  Is that the way it behaves now when I set
the rear-nonsticky property?

 > In general facemenu-set-invisible can't know whether the user will want
 > to insert text "precisely at the beginning of the visible text" or
 > "precisely at the end of the visible text".

In general you're right.  I was referring to the effect immediately
after executing that command.

 > This said, I think you're right: the rear-nonsticky property would be
 > beneficial for the case where the invisible text is shown as an
 > ellipsis, in which case the user can indeed choose where she inserts
 > the text.

That would be fine.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-26 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2007-11-09 21:59       ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-18  0:35         ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-18 15:27           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-23 12:24             ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-23 14:25               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-23 18:19                 ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-23 19:59                   ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-23 20:31                     ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-23 21:52                       ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-23 23:04                         ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-24  9:33                           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-24 10:11                             ` invisible Johan Bockgård
2007-11-24 10:30                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-24 10:34                                 ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-24 19:50                             ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-24 22:26                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-26  3:25                                 ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-26  8:02                                   ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-26 15:17                                     ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-26 19:10                                       ` martin rudalics [this message]
2007-11-26 20:19                                         ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-26  3:20                             ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-26  7:59                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-26 15:29                                 ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-26 19:09                                   ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-26 20:16                                     ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-27 13:11                                       ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-27 18:46                                       ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-27 22:44                                         ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-28  9:16                                           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-28 19:20                                             ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-28 22:41                                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-28 23:23                                         ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-29 10:15                                           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-29 16:13                                             ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-29  1:04                                         ` invisible Richard Stallman
2007-11-29 10:26                                           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-29 15:57                                             ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-29 16:36                                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-29 18:53                                                 ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-29 19:55                                                   ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-30 17:19                                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-30 18:59                                                 ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-30 22:09                                                   ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-12-01  3:11                                                     ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-12-01  9:44                                                       ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-12-01 20:41                                                         ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-12-02  1:15                                                           ` invisible Johan Bockgård
2007-12-02  9:47                                                           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-23 14:37               ` invisible martin rudalics

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