From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Carbon port emacs-unicode-2 build problem under MacOSX Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:34:02 +0000 Message-ID: <4731CCDA.70608@gnu.org> References: <47305F6E.2030204@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194446061 5233 80.91.229.12 (7 Nov 2007 14:34:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 07 15:34:25 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iplz6-0007Wn-E4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:34:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iplyv-0007MR-En for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:34:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iplyq-0007Ku-PF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:34:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iplyp-0007Jt-5W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:34:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iplyo-0007Jm-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:34:06 -0500 Original-Received: from outmail1.freedom2surf.net ([194.106.33.237]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iplyo-0008KO-Bj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:34:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host81-149-25-51.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.149.25.51]) by outmail1.freedom2surf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811EB50887; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:34:05 +0000 (GMT) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) In-Reply-To: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:82739 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov wrote: > YM> And I don't think the Preference dialog that can't be controlled from > YM> Emacs Lisp is suitable for Emacs. > > I don't know about this. I think this is a good thing because it works > better for new users, and the regular Customize interface is still > available under Options->Customize Emacs. On the other hand, it's > inconsistent with other platforms to have a special preferences dialog. > Before the Cocoa port is merged, it would be good if the developers could list all such new features here, so we could decide: 1. The feature is a good feature, and we should implement it on other platforms too. 2. The feature really is Mac specific, and is good to have on that platform, but doesn't fit in other platforms. 3. The feature is not something we want in Emacs right now. If any features fall into the third category, then Emacs.app will no doubt continue to exist as a separate project, but hopefully the developers will still go ahead and merge the rest.