From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Fwd: Frame Height Different for Default Frame and Additional Frames] Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:52:53 +0200 Message-ID: <470DE465.9010503@gmx.at> References: <002501c8044b$fcc95390$6100000a@intermedinc.internal> <4701F8AC.6070900@gmx.at> <470A9D22.2040709@gmx.at> <470BF1BF.3000609@gmx.at> <470C695D.5010906@swipnet.se> <470C766C.1010503@gmx.at> <470C81BC.70909@swipnet.se> <470D38E9.1040802@gmx.at> <470DBF70.9000700@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1192092968 842 80.91.229.12 (11 Oct 2007 08:56:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 11 10:56:06 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iftpt-0002KQ-SY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:56:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iftpn-000452-Gy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:55:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iftnw-0002cQ-RB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:54:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iftnt-0002a8-33 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:54:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iftns-0002Zx-Cw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iftnr-0003Cg-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Oct 2007 08:53:57 -0000 Original-Received: from N949P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.62.156]) [62.47.62.156] by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 11 Oct 2007 10:53:57 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19QECoTiPxQPK532Z4vA3M1STWbXebzkUGPfy2ba8 k+Ln9M6k+IQsbS User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en In-Reply-To: <470DBF70.9000700@swipnet.se> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:80593 Archived-At: > The obvious (but more difficult) would be to read all startup lisp > before creating the first frame. Or create an initial frame (like a > splash screen), and then replace it with a proper "editing" frame. > > What I had in mind was a modeless frame with the Gnu logo and one line of text > from *Messages* at the borrom. When startup is complete, then create a proper > frame with tool bars, menus and such. Of course there are special cases to > handle, like debug on startup, errors in ~/.emacs and such. I wonder whether there really is a gtk+/native toolbars dichotomy here. After all it's up to .emacs whether I want a tool-/menu-/scrollbar, what the size of the initial frame should be ... Hence a gtk+ initial frame must get resized as well when .emacs turns tool-bar-mode off.