From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: raise frame no go Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:53:10 +0200 Message-ID: <46F750C6.7080704@swipnet.se> References: <459CE81B.2090201@swipnet.se> <459F96D3.9050007@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190613259 24466 80.91.229.12 (24 Sep 2007 05:54:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 24 07:54:13 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZgtY-0000Qa-Dx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:54:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZgtV-0007TJ-T4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:54:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZgtS-0007T1-EZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:54:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZgtQ-0007SS-Cb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:54:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZgtQ-0007SJ-0Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:54:04 -0400 Original-Received: from av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net ([81.228.9.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZgtP-0000jb-K6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: by av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 23F4E37FFA; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:54:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F32837E64; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:54:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from husetbladh.homeip.net (90-231-102-24-no59.tbcn.telia.com [90.231.102.24]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D608337E46; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:54:01 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) In-Reply-To: X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79667 Archived-At: Leo skrev: > On 2007-01-06 12:32 +0000, Jan Dj=E4rv wrote: >> Eli Zaretskii skrev: >>>> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:42:19 +0100 >>>> From: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=3DE4rv?=3D >>>> Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org >>>> Metacity (the default Gnome window manager) is a complete mess when= it comes=20 >>>> to raise frame. Some versions works, some don't. Some require the = code=20 >>>> below, some don't. In some configurations (i.e. focus on click vs. = focus on=20 >>>> mouse) raise frame works, in some raise frame don't work. >>>> >>>> We must give up on creating workarounds for Metacity, and just tell = people=20 >>>> that metacity is buggy. Ufortunately they have to figure out a work= around for=20 >>>> themselves and their specific verion/configuration of metacity. >>> How about writing an entry for etc/PROBLEMS about this? >> In the bug created by Leo, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D= 392889, >> the recommendation from the Gnome people seems to be that we use >> _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW but with a proper timestamp (this was wrong in Emac= s). If >> some version of Metacity hangs, it is no fault of Emacs and should be = handeled >> as a Metacity bug. >> >> On the other hand, it is late in the game (pretest-wise) and maybe a n= ote in >> etc/PROBLEMS is good enough for the release. >> >> Comments? >> >> Jan D. >=20 > Has this been fixed? >=20 raise-frame does not do _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW, but x-focus-frame does. It w= ould=20 be trivial to add, but the latest discussion indicated that people didn't= want=20 that. I.e. raise-frame should just do that, raise. Focus should stay wh= ere=20 it was. But for metacity, there is no way to do that. Jan D.