From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Antoine Gautier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4) : trying to save as mac-roman Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:51:51 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <46B2653C-49E5-11D7-B778-0030654C30A8@fsa.ulaval.ca> References: <8355F9AF-495C-11D7-A793-00039390AB82@mac.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============49921568969881258==" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1046303685 22620 80.91.224.249 (26 Feb 2003 23:54:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 23:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18oBNS-0005rJ-00 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 00:54:18 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18oBe7-0005Y6-00 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 01:11:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18oBMc-0005MS-00 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:53:26 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18oBLN-0004gy-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:52:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18oBLC-00046B-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:52:01 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.ulaval.ca ([132.203.250.27]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18oBL7-0003kF-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:51:53 -0500 Original-Received: from fsa.ulaval.ca (ip-98-116.fsa.ulaval.ca [132.203.98.116]) by hermes.ulaval.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1QNpqh25963; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:51:52 -0500 Original-To: Steven Tamm In-Reply-To: <8355F9AF-495C-11D7-A793-00039390AB82@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11995 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11995 --===============49921568969881258== content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-13--723165386" --Apple-Mail-13--723165386 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thanks for the instructions, but this seems to be beyond my abilities. =20= I do not know what 'pulling down the CVS" means (OK, this is a devel=20 list, but I got here trying to learn emacs...). Also, the main reason=20 that I want to use it is for tex/latex. Just a try : I d'loaded emacs-21.1.tar.gz (and emacs-21.2.tar.gz) from=20= ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/ and attempted to compile : emacs-21.1 > ./configure --without-x --enable-carbon-app creating cache ./config.cache checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin6.4 configure: error: Emacs hasn't been ported to `powerpc-apple-darwin6.4'=20= systems. Check `etc/MACHINES' for recognized configuration names. emacs-21.1 > I'm afraid this is a bit much for me... I will wait for the next binary to come out, and see what you folks say=20= about it. Cheers, A. Gautier On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 02:32 AM, Steven Tamm wrote: > The binary distributions of GNU Emacs on versiontracker are woefully=20= > out of date. I had an email conversation with the guy who posted the=20= > "Enhanced Version" and we sort of agreed to disagree. In any case,=20 > the version you have is almost 3 months old and many, many bugs have=20= > been fixed. > > If you do not need to specialized LaTeX support in the "enhanced"=20 > version I would suggest pulling down the CVS, following the=20 > directions at savannah: See http://savannah.gnu.org/cvs/?group=3Demacs=20= > . Once you have that, and assuming you have installed the OSX=20 > developer tools, all you have to do is follow the directions in the=20 > mac/INSTALL, which contains the three commands you need to execute in=20= > the terminal. > > The bigger question is what to do about the binary distributions of=20 > 21.3 that are floating around with bugs that people report. The ones=20= > on versiontracker all do the wrong thing, either include more than=20 > what is needed (like this one with TeX stuff), or less than what is=20 > needed, or install in the wrong place, like in /usr/bin. I'm kind of=20= > regretting the whole make-package script. > > -Steven > > On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 12:01 PM, Antoine Gautier wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Here is a copy of a post I made on gnu.emacs.help, I am beginning to=20= >> suspect that I either found a bug or that my installation is flawed. >> >> I just installed Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4) >> on mac os X 10.2.4, and I have no succes trying to save mac-roman >> encoded files (saving as latin1 works fine). >> >> I tried adding a number of things to my .emacs, such as >> >> (prefer-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac) >> (set-buffer-file-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac) >> (set default-buffer-file-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac) >> >> with no result. The files do get saved, but are unreadable by other=20= >> mac >> apps. Even re-opening them with emacs I get a bunch of ????'s (only >> accentuated characters such as =E9, =E0, =F4, etc. come out OK : = '=E9t=E9' gets=20 >> saved as '=E9?=E9'). >> >> Trying to set the coding from emacs (c-x ret f mac-roman) does not=20 >> help either. >> >> For some odd reason I can correctly open mac-roman files, but saving >> them does not work. >> >> Also : whenever I lauch emacs.app I get the following message on=20 >> console.app : >> >> ## Component Manager: attempting to find symbols in a component alias=20= >> of type (regR/carP/x!bt) >> >> but lauching terminal.app does that too. >> >> Maybe it has to do with the many emacs's installed in /usr/bin (?) >> >> Any help will be greatly appreciated ! >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Antoine Gautier >> >> Facult=E9 des Sciences de l'administration >> Universit=E9 Laval >> internet : http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/ >> courriel : antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-devel mailing list >> Emacs-devel@gnu.org >> http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-devel mailing list > Emacs-devel@gnu.org > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel =20= --Apple-Mail-13--723165386 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for the instructions, but this seems to be beyond my abilities.=20= I do not know what 'pulling down the CVS" means (OK, this is a devel list, but I got here trying to learn emacs...). Also, the main reason that I want to use it is for tex/latex.=20 Just a try : I d'loaded emacs-21.1.tar.gz (and emacs-21.2.tar.gz) from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/ and attempted to compile : emacs-21.1 > ./configure --without-x --enable-carbon-app creating cache ./config.cache checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin6.4 configure: error: Emacs hasn't been ported to `powerpc-apple-darwin6.4' systems. Check `etc/MACHINES' for recognized configuration names. emacs-21.1 >=20 I'm afraid this is a bit much for me... I will wait for the next binary to come out, and see what you folks say about it. Cheers, A. Gautier On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 02:32 AM, Steven Tamm wrote: The binary distributions of GNU Emacs on versiontracker are woefully out of date. I had an email conversation with the guy who posted the "Enhanced Version" and we sort of agreed to disagree. In any case, the version you have is almost 3 months old and many, many bugs have been fixed. =20 If you do not need to specialized LaTeX support in the "enhanced" version I would suggest pulling down the CVS, following the directions at savannah: See http://savannah.gnu.org/cvs/?group=3Demacs . Once you have that, and assuming you have installed the OSX developer tools, all you have to do is follow the directions in the mac/INSTALL, which contains the three commands you need to execute in the terminal. The bigger question is what to do about the binary distributions of 21.3 that are floating around with bugs that people report. The ones on versiontracker all do the wrong thing, either include more than what is needed (like this one with TeX stuff), or less than what is needed, or install in the wrong place, like in /usr/bin. I'm kind of regretting the whole make-package script. -Steven On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 12:01 PM, Antoine Gautier wrote: Hi all, Here is a copy of a post I made on gnu.emacs.help, I am beginning to suspect that I either found a bug or that my installation is flawed. I just installed Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4) on mac os X 10.2.4, and I have no succes trying to save mac-roman encoded files (saving as latin1 works fine). I tried adding a number of things to my .emacs, such as (prefer-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac) (set-buffer-file-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac) (set default-buffer-file-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac) with no result. The files do get saved, but are unreadable by other mac apps. Even re-opening them with emacs I get a bunch of ????'s (only accentuated characters such as =E9, =E0, =F4, etc. come out OK : '=E9t=E9'= gets saved as '=E9?=E9'). Trying to set the coding from emacs (c-x ret f mac-roman) does not help either. For some odd reason I can correctly open mac-roman files, but saving them does not work. Also : whenever I lauch emacs.app I get the following message on console.app : ## Component Manager: attempting to find symbols in a component alias of type (regR/carP/x!bt) but lauching terminal.app does that too. Maybe it has to do with the many emacs's installed in /usr/bin (?) Any help will be greatly appreciated ! Regards, Antoine Gautier=20 Facult=E9 des Sciences de l'administration Universit=E9 Laval=20 internet : = 1A17,1A17,FFFChttp://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/pe= rsonnel/gautiera/ courriel : antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel =20= --Apple-Mail-13--723165386-- --===============49921568969881258== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel --===============49921568969881258==--