From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: C-d deleting region considered harmful Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:44:45 -0700 Message-ID: <46A82312A6054C6CBE236873622F044B@us.oracle.com> References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83lj6zz9o0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284835521 1274 80.91.229.12 (18 Sep 2010 18:45:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Eli Zaretskii' , emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Miles Bader' To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 18 20:45:19 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox2PT-000352-QB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:45:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39024 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ox2PN-0007IC-VC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:45:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54435 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ox2PF-0007HL-OB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox2PE-0002Mq-Nh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:45:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:19024) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox2PD-0002MD-6s; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:44:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o8IIiuBu021163 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:44:57 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o8IDxEmF006160; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:44:55 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt013.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 609916261284835438; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:43:58 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.218.112) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:43:58 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: ActXSyhFnOBQZFoJTKyoEQKV0c1sZAAEdBTQ In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130433 Archived-At: > > No. Both and C-d, whether mapped together or not, > > should do what they have always done in Emacs: delete the > > next char. Whether the region is active or not. > > Thanks. But we're discussing here what to do with C-d: Yes, we are. And I'm adding to the discussion, which is typically mapped to C-d. > for `delete' we already decided that it should delete an > active region (by default). I see. Where/when was that decided? That's too bad. C-d and should just delete the next char. > Whether you agree with this `delete' behavior is irrelevant. Anything I say you might consider irrelevant, whether I agree or disagree with you. That's your right. I still voice my agreement or disagreement. Voicing disagreement to your decisions is often ineffectual in terms of getting you to reconsider, it is true. That is not a reason to keep silent when a choice is bad.